Pre Victory Model Info?

[Biginge]

Would a pre-Victory model command any premium over a Victory model? Or vice-versa?

Thanks
Bill

 

[tomshilling]

Difficult question

...sort of like asking "how high is up?"

As in real estate, value in most guns is determined by condition and market availability. A Victory model in bad shape and un-firable is going to command much less (if anything) than a Pre-Victory model that is in 98% condition with the original box.

Without having two guns to compare against each other, there is no way to intelligently answer your question. On the other hand, a die-hard Victory collector might want anything that is a proven Victory model over anything Pre-Victory regardless of condition.

It would be much easier to answer if there were something to measure against, but in general terms, No, one will not automatically command a higher price being a Pre-Victory or Victory model than the other.

 

[Biginge]

I should have posted , given the same condition. I guess the question I should have asked "Is a pre Victory, in comprable condition with a Victory, any more in demand. Is the "pre" a more sought after than the "V". Sorry for the confusion. Does anyone have a pre-victory in a box?

regards

Bill

 

[DCWilson]

I should have posted , given the same condition. I guess the question I should have asked "Is a pre Victory, in comprable condition with a Victory, any more in demand. Is the "pre" a more sought after than the "V". Sorry for the confusion. Does anyone have a pre-victory in a box?

regards

Bill

I wouldn't value one over the other exclusively on the presence or absence of a V on the butt in front of the numerals. All M&Ps are part of a production continuum and take any difference in value from variables other than a minor difference in serial numbering.

At any rate, that's what I think on this particular afternoon. Check with me in a couple of months and see if my position has evolved, which is a polite way of saying, "See if I remember what I said the last time the question came up."

 

[Biginge]

Thanks David. I have a friend that is interested in the pre-Victory that I posted several weeks back and didn't want to sting him, or me on pending trade. I have been trading guns for a long time and I don't think I have anyone that would not welcome me to another trade. I value that as much as I do my Smith & Wessons.

Regards

Bill

 

[Ballarat]

Quite a number of the pre Victory models carried British and Commonwealth martial markings, so although they dont have the V prefix I am inclined to include those in any collection of V prefixed revolvers, you have to understand Britain was at war long before the V prefix came into being in 1942. So numbers from late 1939 onwards especially martially marked have to be considered legitimate WW2 issue equipment. Lend lease or direct purchase by the Defence purchasing comission. Quite a number of colt revolvers also come under this area of uncertainty, though by direct purchase from the commision do not carry any US ownership markings.

 

[opoefc]

Bill, The location of the marketplace seems to dictate values ( aka: "prices" ) on Pre-Victory vs. V stamped guns. In the US, Navy. Maritime Commission and Marine Corps stamped ( and verified by factory letters) guns seem to bring higher prices than Pre-Victories. Collectors can be strange, however, in their actions and will pay a higher price for a gun that fills a niche in their collection, than some of us think the gun is worth. Ed.