Prime-All Compound

[6string]

Hi,
I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with the Sharpshooter 22 Reloader tool. Something that's new is their Prime-All priming compound to spare the grief of making our own from match heads or cap gun caps.
Prime-All Repriming Compound ? Sharpshooter 22LR Reloader
Problem is, this stuff is out of stock!
There are four powder chemicals in the kit.
Anyone have any idea what these chemicals might be?

Thanks,
Jim

 

[Rule3]

What matches are made of. Try finding them is another issue.

How match is made - material, manufacture, making, history, used, parts, composition, product, machine, History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match

How Matches Work | MythBusters | Discovery

 

[Culina]

lead styphnate, crushed/powdered glass ? and ? where's the experts?

 

[6string]

Thanks for the replies so far.
I'm wondering if any of these home-brewed priming compounds are corrosive or not?

 

[Magload]

Man are you just plain bored, or looking to blow your self up? I read the earlier post on loading 22s just not worth it. If you are worried about a survival thing just get a adult air rifle @ 1200 fps. Don

 

[Jeff423]

You could buy .22 ammo - it's already got the primer compound in it!

 

[6string]

Ha! Thanks for the tips.
My interest in this priming compound goes beyond 22 LR. A popular target cartridge in pre-WWII Switzerland was the 22 extra long, specifically the Patrone #7 variant made by Thün.
There were a number of really, really fine target arms, mostly single shot pistols & rifles, made for this cartridge.
If I can work out the priming situation, it would be possible (at least on a limited basis) to enjoy these arms for what they were intended for: shooting tiny little groups!
Other uses could include reloading 44 Henry rimfire, 32 S&W rimfire, or even re-priming oddball Berdan primers, given their spotty availability.
But, I'd really like to know what this stuff is, and whether it's corrosive before using in a valuable collectors piece.

Thanks!
Jim

 

[Alk8944]

Your link doesn't show as out-of-stock as of a few minutes ago. Where in the process of ordering did it give this message?

To answer the important question, are home-concocted priming mixtures corrosive? All that I am aware of, based on the ingredients, absolutely are! Particularly those using phosphorus matches as a base.

Even if this supplier is out-of-stock what is the hurry? Give it a few weeks and try again. I would do what I could to contact the company and ask if their material is corrosive before doing anything!

Second question, where are you going to obtain brass for any of the cartridges you suggest you may load for? The newest around for most of these is 75+ years old, was corrosive or Mercuric primed. Any cases you may find will most likely fail catastrophically on the first firing. Even many center-fire cases this old are not to be trusted, and they are much more durable than thin rim-fire cases!

 

[Bkreutz]

Ha! Thanks for the tips.
My interest in this priming compound goes beyond 22 LR. A popular target cartridge in pre-WWII Switzerland was the 22 extra long, specifically the Patrone #7 variant made by Thün.
There were a number of really, really fine target arms, mostly single shot pistols & rifles, made for this cartridge.
If I can work out the priming situation, it would be possible (at least on a limited basis) to enjoy these arms for what they were intended for: shooting tiny little groups!
Other uses could include reloading 44 Henry rimfire, 32 S&W rimfire, or even re-priming oddball Berdan primers, given their spotty availability.
But, I'd really like to know what this stuff is, and whether it's corrosive before using in a valuable collectors piece.

Thanks!
Jim

You might try emailing Larry Potterfield at Midway, he is apparently a big fan of reloading and shooting obsolete cartridges and may have some insight on the subject. I've seen many of his "tips" videos and they're pretty fascinating.

 

[6string]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for this:
"To answer the important question, are home-concocted priming mixtures corrosive? All that I am aware of, based on the ingredients, absolutely are! Particularly those using phosphorus matches as a base."

"Second question, where are you going to obtain brass for any of the cartridges you suggest you may load for? The newest around for most of these is 75+ years old, was corrosive or Mercuric primed. Any cases you may find will most likely fail catastrophically on the first firing. Even many center-fire cases this old are not to be trusted, and they are much more durable than thin rim-fire cases!

There's been a few runs of oddball rimfire ammo over recent years. It's usually pretty expensive and in limited quantities. It would be nice to get a few reloads out of the brass if possible.

I know a Colt SAA collector that has most of the various chamberings, including a 44 Henry. That's a tough one. Might not be a good idea shooting it anyway!
I think the 22 extra long can be formed from once fired 22 mag.
Come to think of it, there are a LOT of nice old 22 WRF chambered firearms out there. I've seen a lot of nice old Colt DAs, like the Police Positive Target, etc. chambered for that one. They tend to be undervalued on the market mainly because of the chambering.
Anyhow, it would be nice to know that one can get at least some utility out of the old obsolete rimfires with a bit of persistence.

Thanks,
Jim

 

[Raycopeland]

Primer help

Repriming Compound

ANTIMONY TRISULPHIDE (SB2 S3) -325MES

Ground glass

Sulfur

POTASSIUM CHLORATE

Hobby Chemical Supply

 

[Raycopeland]

Hope this helps but use caution just mix a small amount at a time

 

[rwsmith]

I believe it is mercury.....

Thanks for the replies so far.
I'm wondering if any of these home-brewed priming compounds are corrosive or not?

I believe mercury is of main concern in primer compounds for corrosion.

Even if they are corrosive, proper and through cleaning after shooting will prevent corrosion. It's when the residue attracts water that corrosion starts.

 

[DWalt]

Any primer composition containing chlorate would be corrosive. Chlorates become chlorides upon combustion (like NaCl, salt) and that is what causes steel to corrode. Modern priming compositions do not contain chlorates, although up until the late 1920s (and even later for military primers) chlorate-containing priming compositions ruled the roost. Mercury fulminate has not been used in small arms priming compositions for a very, very long time.

 

[nitrous]

Hope this helps but use caution just mix a small amount at a time

the mix is relatively safe until you mix in the potassium Chlorate.

When mixing, you should use the "diaping method" - very gentle and a great way to thoroughly mix SMALL quantities of materials like this.


Nitrous

 

[ReloadforFun]

Current Federal rimfire has;

Lead
Copper
Zinc
Nickel
Nitrocellulose
Nitroglycerine
Antimony
Lead Dihydroxy
Barium Nitrate

The lead would mostly the bullet, and the copper and zinc for the bullet and casing. Nitrocellulose and nitroglycerine would be the powder principally, leaving the rest for the priming compound. Not impossible for the priming compound to have some nitrocellulose and/or nitroglycerine as well. They don't list glass, but it has commonly been used to create a friction element helping ignition of the compound.