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gunsmith11
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That is a term I had not heard before
Alpo
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In Florida, according to the guy teaching the class I was listening to, it is not supposed to be visible to the "untrained eye". He said that it didn't matter if HE, as an ex-cop, could spot it, because he had been trained to spot concealed weapons. Long as John Q. Public didn't notice, it was all right.
Can't find that in the statutes, though.
I look down at my right thigh, it is very obvious to me that there is a J frame in my pocket, but nobody else seems to notice.
Can't find that in the statutes, though.
I look down at my right thigh, it is very obvious to me that there is a J frame in my pocket, but nobody else seems to notice.
wheeler10k
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"Is that a J frame, or are you just happy to...."
Gatofeo
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Here in Utah, the issue is not addressed.
Define printing.
I see an occasional person wearing a large waistepack, at the front. I see it and I think, "Ah ha! He's got a .45 in there!"
Rarely do you see someone wearing a belt pack around here anymore, and it seems the only ones you see are those large enough for a big pistol.
So, to me that's printing.
I carry a Walther PPK in my right, front jeans pocket. No one has ever said anything about noticing it. And frankly, it doesn't stand out well.
I'm very careful about not displaying a concealed handgun, for both tactical and anti-panic reasons.
A few years ago, at Costco, I saw a guy lean over to grab a case of bottled water. His T-shirt rode up to reveal a cocked and (I hope) locked 1911 in his waistband.
A few people noticed, but said nothing.
If the same thing happened in Seattle, there'd probably be a small flurry of panicked customers.
I don't like belt holsters for concealed carry. When weather permits a jacket, I wear a shoulder holster.
When it's hot, the PPK or a .38 snub go in my right, front pocket.
Just a month or so ago, here in Utah, a guy wearing a belt holster went into a public restroom and began to sat down.
His semi-auto pistol fell out of its belt holster and fired, shattering the pot he was sitting on.
It made quite a bit of news around here. I don't know that I ever heard what make gun it was.
I knew a guy years ago who pulled up his pants after using a public john. His J-frame .38, in a belt holster, had popped loose. It fell into the pot and was ... um ... interred.
He had to fish it out with a bare hand, then discreetly rinse it off in numerous toilet flushings.
He went to pocket carry or shoulder holster after that.
He's lucky it wasn't an outhouse or that pistol would have been lost forever.
Many an archaeologist has found handguns and knives in old outhouse holes, accidentally dropped down the hole by their owner.
Makes me wonder what the folks who empty porta-potties must find.
Define printing.
I see an occasional person wearing a large waistepack, at the front. I see it and I think, "Ah ha! He's got a .45 in there!"
Rarely do you see someone wearing a belt pack around here anymore, and it seems the only ones you see are those large enough for a big pistol.
So, to me that's printing.
I carry a Walther PPK in my right, front jeans pocket. No one has ever said anything about noticing it. And frankly, it doesn't stand out well.
I'm very careful about not displaying a concealed handgun, for both tactical and anti-panic reasons.
A few years ago, at Costco, I saw a guy lean over to grab a case of bottled water. His T-shirt rode up to reveal a cocked and (I hope) locked 1911 in his waistband.
A few people noticed, but said nothing.
If the same thing happened in Seattle, there'd probably be a small flurry of panicked customers.
I don't like belt holsters for concealed carry. When weather permits a jacket, I wear a shoulder holster.
When it's hot, the PPK or a .38 snub go in my right, front pocket.
Just a month or so ago, here in Utah, a guy wearing a belt holster went into a public restroom and began to sat down.
His semi-auto pistol fell out of its belt holster and fired, shattering the pot he was sitting on.
It made quite a bit of news around here. I don't know that I ever heard what make gun it was.
I knew a guy years ago who pulled up his pants after using a public john. His J-frame .38, in a belt holster, had popped loose. It fell into the pot and was ... um ... interred.
He had to fish it out with a bare hand, then discreetly rinse it off in numerous toilet flushings.
He went to pocket carry or shoulder holster after that.
He's lucky it wasn't an outhouse or that pistol would have been lost forever.
Many an archaeologist has found handguns and knives in old outhouse holes, accidentally dropped down the hole by their owner.
Makes me wonder what the folks who empty porta-potties must find.
Alpo
Member
If that's Mr. Happy, I'm shore shaped strange.
Alpo
Member
Originally posted by Gatofeo:
Makes me wonder what the folks who empty porta-potties must find.
I remember reading, over on the SASSwire, about somebody that went diving, at one of the larger matches, when as she (purty sure it was a woman) was putting her gunbelt back one, one went swimming.
Me, I learned on jobsites, long ago. Put the lid down, lower your pants. Get done, stand up, put the lid down, raise your pants. Always put the lid down first.
FrankD45
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Back to the original question. The answer lies in the definition of "concealed" in your state. As I understand the North Carolina statute, you have a permit to carry a concealed firearm. If it is not concealed, such as printing an outline, it CAN be defined as brandishing. The operating word is CAN.
I hope that helps,
Frank
I hope that helps,
Frank
Show me the word "printing" in the TX statutes.
It's not there.
What TX statute 411.171 actually says is:
"Concealed handgun" means a handgun, the presence of which is not openly discernable to the ordinary observation of a reasonable person.
Many states, including OK, have similar wording.
Best to actually READ the law.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/ls-16.pdf
