Private firearm sale in Ohio question...

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Not sure this The Lounge is the best spot for this, but I wasn't sure if it really fit anywhere.

Can anyone tell me, or direct me to information regarding, what is required for sale of a firearm between two individuals in Ohio? I've people I know and it seems to be you really don't need to do anything specific. Though one person suggested date copy of buyer/seller driver's license, including model & serial number, all on one sheet of paper. Each person would get a copy. I guess it's a CYA thing and makes some sense to me. I'd probably add signatures and maybe a notary (wife has hers so it's easy).

Any and all responses welcomed.

Thanks!
 
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The other side of the problem is your buyer might not be real comfortable giving you most of what is needed for identity theft. Remember, he doesn't know you from squat, and now you feel you can ask for and get some very personal information. And how do you know he's going to protect that stuff to the extent you'd like it?
 
in the state of Ohio to meet the law requirements all that is needed is to be 21 years old show proof of state residency ie drivers license or state issued i d no other form of id is acceptable not ccp ect as far as copying down info in today's day of id theft good luck on getting that from a stranger
 
Both the Buyer and Seller must live in Ohio,I have a receipt Book and write all needed information in it including Their DL.Number and Name and Address.And don't forget to ask if He's allowed to have a Firearm because You can get in some trouble for selling to Someone that isn't allowed to have one.
If they don't want to give You the information I say sorry and leave. I also insist on a Public Place.
 
When I lived in Ohio, we met at the gun club where we were both members. I brought cash, he brought the gun. I tried it out, paid for it, shot some more, went home. We already knew each other. There is no record keeping required by either party.
 
Thanks for all the responses.

Does it have to be face to face between seller and buyer? The buyer is likely going to be someone I know (my wife's boss) and for convenience she would have just taken it to the office for him...
 
Shipping

I live in Ohio. If I ship a rifle or handgun to an Ohio resident who has provided me with a copy of his driver's license, I'm legal. Right?
 
Does it have to be face to face between seller and buyer? The buyer is likely going to be someone I know (my wife's boss) and for convenience she would have just taken it to the office for him...
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Does your wife have the right to carry/transport a firearm in your state? If no, then the answer would be NO. Chances are that you could be pushing the state requirements if it is not you handing the firearm directly to the intended buyer. Things like this only become an issue when they become an issue. You might be able to do it 10 times and never have a problem. Unfortunately, the one time you do could be big trouble.

Here in MA, we can do face to face transfers and the seller merely files the information electronically using his firearm license number and password and that of the buyer. I believe that they also ask for the type of gun and the serial number.

To be safe, I would check with the agency in your state that issues your gun license if you have one. At the very least, I would want a copy of the buyers drivers license for my files. Most DL numbers are not SS numbers anymore so identify theft is not a concern. If a buyer was unable to give me at least some proof, I would walk away.
 
For starters there is no registration of firearms in Ohio. The only form of licensing in Ohio is for concealed carry. There would be absolutely no problem with a spouse taking an unloaded firearm and delivering it to a buyer (such as her boss) unless her company forbids firearms on the property of the business (and that would be an issue with the employer not the state unless someone called the police to have her and the gun removed).
I am a resident of Ohio and have also been involved in the firearms trade with 2 different FFL's for a number of years. If you bought the gun from an FFL you can certainly take it to one and have a transfer done if you wish to create a paper trail. The dealer will certainly charge a fee and either you or the buyer will have to pay it so you should figure that cost into the price.

When selling privately, if I don't already know the buyer I have to see, at minimum, a drivers license to insure they are of legal age and a state resident. There is no way for a private citizen to do a background check so it is up to you to decide if you want to sell someone a gun or not. If anything feels odd don't do it.

I have found buyers appreciate that I will offer to write them a bill of sale for the gun. I also keep a copy with their name and address for my records ( I keep a personal firearms log for insurance reasons). If they have an Ohio CCW I am quite happy to use that as an ID as it shows their name and address (a non resident CCW will not have an Ohio address) and I know that they have at least passed the background check for concealed carry.
 
85V65Sabre said:
Check out this link.

Gun laws in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here in Michigan *Permit required for purchase from an individual if purchaser does not have a CPL or the transaction is not processed through an FFL dealer.
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This statement ONLY applies to Handguns, Long Guns of any description may be sold without any permit or registration requirements. Note, Michigan considers any firearm shorter than 26 inches as a Pistol so some Rifles under Federal Law can be a Pistol here in Michigan (some Bullpups or possibly some side folders).
 
scooter123 said:
This statement ONLY applies to Handguns, Long Guns of any description may be sold without any permit or registration requirements. Note, Michigan considers any firearm shorter than 26 inches as a Pistol so some Rifles under Federal Law can be a Pistol here in Michigan (some Bullpups or possibly some side folders).
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Sorry I did forget to put that in my post.
 
as noted above there is no "cut and dry" procedure here in oHio, you BOTH have to be residents, and of age (21 for handguns) as for the bill of sale whatever the two of you both decide for your own "personal protection" can be put on paper, all the pertinent data as to make ,model and serial number....no tax needs to be collected, no transfer fees, etc, unless 'again' you decide to go through a licensed dealer (FFL) he could do it but he is ( may?) going to charge you a "fee" for his time and effort.
If you cannot trust your wifes own 'boss' I'd think there is other issues involved.............
and NO your wife does NOT need a CCW to take the gun to work, obviously if it is not against company policy and she is not transporting a "loaded firearm in an automobile" again a bit of discretion on both of their parts would needed to not get any "other" employees all bent out of shape ( don;t wave the gun around in the office !!!) I'd do it at one of their homes, AFTER work.just MY .02 cents..........
 
A-37 said:
I live in Ohio. If I ship a rifle or handgun to an Ohio resident who has provided me with a copy of his driver's license, I'm legal. Right?
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In theory, yes. You just have to find a carrier willing to do so.
 
A37, you have to ship the gun to an FFL somewhere where the persons lives. I don't think you can ship to another Ohio residents house and consider it a legal instate transition. You could meet him half way. If you ship it yourself, it's more expensive then using an FFL, depending on how much the FFL charges. You can not ship USPS. Sure wish you would make it to the NE Ohio bunch, I'm sure you would have a great time. Pierre, put the gun in something safe if dropped, have your wife put it in the trunk going to work and hand the box to her boss when at work. Her boss could go to her car to get the gun if she is uncomfortable taking it in to work. He has to be a resident and should have a good back ground. it's not a big deal, I buy guns at shows and all I want to see is the drivers liscence to make sure he lives in Ohio you could do what Dant says and meet at your house or his. Larry
 
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