Thank you for both of your replies. I have shot a good bit of PPU 158gr RN and have reloaded some of the brass. It is pretty thick, like USGI it loads very well. Last year they came out with their SWC and I ordered 1,000 rnds before sales tax on the internet. I was surprised when you posted about the SWCHP. I may order some in the near future. Again, THANX for the info.........