Pro Series disappointment

[sarge1967]

What is sad here is that at any gun show, there are at least 3 certified Glock armorers doing trigger upgrades for the price of a decent dinner, using factory Glock parts. Why is there no one doing this for S&W guns? Not enough demand? I joked with one of them yesterday, asking him to go to the Burwell site & familiarize himself with what to do. He could then practice on my gun. This guy rips a Glock apart, & does his upgrades in minutes, & the customer doesn't have to pay $100 for the trigger parts. $30 max for all the trigger parts, plus labor. It's actually quite entertaining how this one particular guy does the work. The customer gets his gun back with all the Glock upgrades, & is entertained as the work is done. Why can't people do this for us M&P guys? GARY

Doing Glock upgrades is FAR EASIER from my expierience. The Apex stuff is not drop in on some pistols. The biggest difference is the way S&W designed the drop safety. Except for CORE pistols, you have to remove the rear sight. That can cause issues on some pistols. It did mine. I got my sight off but stripped out my sight tool trying to get it back on. I spoke with 3 local gunsmiths who would not touch it. So it has been sent to a fella in AL. to get the sight put back on.
I know many folks here have had no problems installing the Apex kits but I know some have so it really is hit or miss. Sight relpacement is a bugger on M&P's

 

[curlysir]

Because this isn't true. Maybe at the gun shows where you go there are a lot of Glock guys, but I don't see that around here.

Sounds like an opportunity. Why don't you go through the armorer's class, become certified and then offer this at the gun show? You could make some money.

It is true here in the Dallas/FW area. Glock armorer at every gun show I attend. No S&W armorer at any show I have been.

 

[N4KVE]

Sounds like an opportunity. Why don't you go through the armorer's class, become certified and then offer this at the gun show? You could make some money.

Because I am already at all the local gun shows selling guns, so I don't have time to work on guns. GARY

 

[Rastoff]

Doing Glock upgrades is FAR EASIER from my expierience.

Well, I haven't done all the different upgrades, but I have done some. I find the M&P to be easier to work on. Then again, I haven't installed any parts on a Glock in a while. I can install the Forward Set Sear kit (probably the most involved kit) in 15 minutes or less.

Maybe I should start doing this at gun shows? Hmmm....

 

[sarge1967]

Well, I haven't done all the different upgrades, but I have done some. I find the M&P to be easier to work on. Then again, I haven't installed any parts on a Glock in a while. I can install the Forward Set Sear kit (probably the most involved kit) in 15 minutes or less.

Maybe I should start doing this at gun shows? Hmmm....

It would have taken me about 15 min if I could have got my rear sight back on. Now the Aluminum kit I tried first was a complete nightmare! The pin is far to tight in the trigger.

 

[curlysir]

Well, I haven't done all the different upgrades, but I have done some. I find the M&P to be easier to work on. Then again, I haven't installed any parts on a Glock in a while. I can install the Forward Set Sear kit (probably the most involved kit) in 15 minutes or less.

Maybe I should start doing this at gun shows? Hmmm....

Have to disagree with you on this. You don't have to remove the rear sight to remove the striker plunger on a Glock. It takes a hammer and punch to completely dissemble the M&P, it only takes a punch for the Glock, no hammer. The Glock is much easier to work on then the M&P. I have both Glocks and M&P's. They are both good products but being easier to work on is not one of the advantages of the M&P.

 

[C4IGrant]

I have been wanting a 5" 9mm Pro Series pistol for some time now. Just this weekend my local dealer got a 4.25" Pro 9mm in and I bought it to add to the 4.25" .40 and 9mm Shield that I have until I could find a 5" Pro 9mm.

My disappointment comes from the gritty feeling trigger this new Pro 9mm has. My Shield feels a little gritty as well but not as bad as this new Pro. My standard M&P .40 trigger has a pull that is smooth as silk. I would have thought that the extra $$ for my Pro Series 9mm would have given me at least the same if not better overall feel than my 40. This is not the case.

Being new to the forum I hope no one is offended by my bringing this up. Is it a break in thing? Is it the norm for this series of S&W's? I am not so sure I want another M&P if this is the norm. I currently own 2 Sig Sauer's, a Glock, and 4 Ruger's and not one of those brands has had this gritty feel to thier triggers.

If anyone else has had a similar experience, will S&W do anything about it or should I just trade them off for something else? I love the ergonomics of the pistols, but not at the cost of poor trigger performance.

Many thanks for everyones patience with me post on this post I would appreciate any guidance you veterans could offer me.

The components in the PRO are the same as what is in the latest generation of M&P's. It used to be that the PRO got the Performance Center Sear and the standard M&P's didn't. That is no longer true.

Gritty feel generally comes from the striker block (specifically the spring having too much tension on it). Either polishing this part and cutting down 2 coils off the spring OR buying the Apex USB solves most all of the grit feel.




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