Proper arms for clearing the pythons from the “glades”?

...and rumors of 100 foot snakes existing)

Was it hanging out with Bigfoot, Nessie and the chupacabra, playing cards? There's no 100' snakes out there. There's always a toss up of which snake is the biggest. Anacondas due to girth and Reticulated pythons due to length, neither of which you wanna tangle with, both of which can easily reach the 20'+ range.
 
The main species involved is the Burmese python, which is either the 3rd or 4th largest snake in the world (I forget which). They can grow to lengths of 24 feet give or take. I used to be involved in a reptile society/rescue organization and we had an 16 foot female, a snake that took at least 2 of us to handle. Luckily she was calm and used to people, but a wild, hungry, 24 foot python is trouble by any definition. (Now if you want to discuss real trouble, what happens when the Reticulated python establishes a wild, breeding population in the Everglades? Why are Retic's even legal to own as a "pet"? They are the longest snake in the world, have extremely unpleasant dispositions, and are 1 of the 2 documented man eaters.)
I don't think hunting them is a very smart idea. Frankly if there is an established breeding population of them already there, I think it would be impossible to kill them all. I doubt they'd manage to kill more than a few.



Which is the second documented man-eating snake? I wouldn't put it past the African or Indian pythons or the Anaconda.

Also-

I've read many accounts by the early hunters and explorers, and found none that used automatic weapons or explosives on big snakes. If anyone recalls one of these books, please let me know the title. I'd like to read it. Wouldn't surprise me if Allied troops in Burma or New Guinea in WW II didn't use a Tommy or Bren gun or a BAR on them, though. (Boys will be boys...) Dynamite or grenades seem too dangerous to the user.

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Hey: I just remembered something else. Haven't they also found an occasional cobra in Florida? If those get established, it will indeed be a problem.

The Eastern Diamondback rattler is enough of a threat, not to mention coral snakes and water moccasins. And alligators and probably, caimans.
Those used to be sold here as pets when alligators were endangered. I bet some got released into those swamps. And in other southern states.

T-Star
 
Florida's Senior Senator; William "Bill" Nelson (who is about as worthless as one man can be) is now agitating to have South Florida cleared of Pythons.
Bill Nelson is dumber than a box of rocks and has the charisma of a fresh turd. Other than that, I guess he's OK. :mad:

I like Alcee Hastings and Corrine Brown too...............NOT!

Bob
 
Y'all are so nice and humane. Tryin' to kill the rotten reptile with headshots and such. Go back and review the photo of the ruptured snake. He's dead. And his head didn't rupture, his side did. Snakes are just critters, they die when cut nearly in half. I like the shotgun idea, it just kills indescriminately. If you see a snake, and want it dead, shoot it. Unless you want the intact skin for some reason, just perforate it.

You can have and use your OO or #4 buck if it pleases you. I think I'd go for BB shot or #2 birdshot. Lots and lots of nice big pellets. Remember we're not shooting them to eat them, or to show to friends. We just what them dead. If you can get a good head shot, take it. I'd think any shot in the front half would do the trick, as long as you remove 50% of the diameter where you hit it. I'd think the back part would stop behaving as intended by the snake after the hit. These critters are constrictors, they want to crush you, then eat you. Kind of hard to do when they've been sectioned. And snakes don't grow new heads or tails.
 
IMHO, I feel you guys are going overboard with the AR's, 12 gauges and all that. I think a well placed .22 would do the job nicely, heck it'll kill anything........
 
I'm not goin' python hunting unless my Saiga12 with it's 20 round magazines loaded with #4s gets to come along too.
 
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Nope but the dreaded Copper mouth water rattler can fly.
 
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You know the old joke, spread the rumor they taste like chicken, there is no bag limit, and season opened last week. If Government is involved though Florida will probably screw this up as bad a California did with wild island pigs. A couple years ago California decided to do something about the feral pigs on one of the uninhabited Catalina Islands. Seems the pigs were destroying the nest and threatening the local birds. Cali contracted with an Australian varmint control company to exterminate the pigs, at about $2500 per pig. Of course the logical thing would have been to offer a special wild bore hunt, charge $100 or more per permit, and made money off of the problem.
 
"Yeah, it is, but it seems impossible to keep the New Yorkers out ... "

Hey, I resemble that remark! ;-)
Not to worry-I only like to visit-I couldn't live there.
 
"I'd feel pretty well armed with a .357, but would try for head or neck shots."

Where exactly does the head end and neck begin, or for that matter the neck end?
Looks like all neck to me w/a little bit of head & tail.
Kevin
 
You know the old joke, spread the rumor they taste like chicken, there is no bag limit, and season opened last week. If Government is involved though Florida will probably screw this up as bad a California did with wild island pigs. A couple years ago California decided to do something about the feral pigs on one of the uninhabited Catalina Islands. Seems the pigs were destroying the nest and threatening the local birds. Cali contracted with an Australian varmint control company to exterminate the pigs, at about $2500 per pig. Of course the logical thing would have been to offer a special wild bore hunt, charge $100 or more per permit, and made money off of the problem.


As much as one might wish to hunt "bores", it's illegal. A "boar" hunt does seem a good idea.;)

Reminds me of W.D.M. Bell, the famous elephant hunter. In his day, some men insisted on "large bore" rifles for big game: .465, .470, .500, etc....Others preferred the deer rifle calibers, and were called "small bores." Bell was famous for killing elephant with small bore (7mm, .303, etc.) rifles. Someone asked about this, and he replied, "Actually, I hope that I'm not a 'bore' at all." :D

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If Government is involved though Florida will probably screw this up as bad a California did with wild island pigs. A couple years ago California decided to do something about the feral pigs on one of the uninhabited Catalina Islands. Seems the pigs were destroying the nest and threatening the local birds. Cali contracted with an Australian varmint control company to exterminate the pigs, at about $2500 per pig. Of course the logical thing would have been to offer a special wild bore hunt, charge $100 or more per permit, and made money off of the problem.

Intelligent, cost-effective solutions were not sought. Allowing a pig hunt would have allowed those blood-thirsty Bambi-killers to HAVE FUN KILLING THINGS! Better to squander public funds to achieve the same end by the same means in an incompetent, wasteful, vindictive manner.

We had the same thing 25 years ago in my state w/deer, which had overhwhelmed their habitat to the point the herd was riddled with ticks, disease and starvation. Didn't help the forest, either.

Rather than simply allow a public deer season to thin the herd, the Illuminati decreed that hired hunters - excuse me; game management specialists - would. Same bliss-ninny BS.
 
"I'd feel pretty well armed with a .357, but would try for head or neck shots."

Where exactly does the head end and neck begin, or for that matter the neck end?
Looks like all neck to me w/a little bit of head & tail.
Kevin


Shoot the end with the teeth. If you're close enough, you'll soon discover which it is.:eek:

I once knew a pet shop owner who had recently been bitten by a Green Tree Python. Not as big as the species mentioned here, it is still a large snake, and it left its mark.

The teeth of pythons are recurved and difficult to extract. A big python packs a mean bite, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it become infected.

Pythons have heads large enough to easily discern them from the tails. One's head is bigger than my hand. The rest of the snake is pretty big, too.

As effective as those Speer shot cartridges are on rattlers, you might want more on a python.;)

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