Proves my point

[steelslaver]

I do not believe permits stop senseless gun deaths

Some believe permits, training, back ground checks and more are needed to prevent needless deaths.

This guy must have gone through all this and more, yet still broke a bunch of basic rules and senselessly shot his friend.

Florida cop accidentally shoots best friend dead while playing video games

none of it stops STUPID

 

[chief38]

Let's face facts here:

Accidents have occurred and will always occur - Human's are human and no mater how much training, repetition and drilling we do - there will always be accidents. All we can hope for is to keep them to a minimum.

Sad such a young man has perished by circumstances that were totally not essential. Sad the young man made the fatal error of pointing a gun at someone - stupid! I feel terrible for their families, fellow officer's and friends - we should learn as best as possible from their mistakes. Keep accidents to the bare minimum! NEVER forget what to NOT DO with any firearms!

 

[Breakaway500]

Not sure I'd call this an "accident"...more like pure 100% stoopidity...or....there is more to the story. We will never know...

 

[Paul in Nevada]

The exception proves the rule, as the saying goes. We tend to focus on the outliers.

 

[Bald1]

Article said he was with dept since age 19. Surely that would not have been as a deputy, right? Probably some other capacity till 21?

 

[murphydog]

A tragic incident. No playing with guns, the bullet eraser has not yet been invented.

 

[Krogen]

This is totally revolting. We are reading what the media wants us to read, so there may well be more to it. But it appears to be a wanton disregard for the well-being of a friend.

I am not a violent person, but . . . . If a friend - I should write "friend" - ever jokingly points a weapon at me that "friend" is going get promptly decked. A fast and furious response. I would expect to receive nothing less from my friends should I be stupid enough to carry out such a transgression.

 

[dave1918a2]

I'm not exactly sure how a permit caused or attributed to this accident. Please explain.

 

[steelslaver]

Yes, this is a terrible lose of a young mans life. The one who pulled the trigger will have to live with it the rest of his life. But, I have a hard time calling it an accident. It was flat willful disregard for the rules of safe gun handling by someone who had to have been taught better, was cleared in every way to own and carry a gun. NONE of that stopped him.

I am sure he went through far more training and vetting than a civilian carry permit holder. What I am saying is having a permit process with vetting and training will not stop stupid, nor irresponsible or those who chose not to pay attention to basic gun safety. What makes you think a person that will break those basic rules will not break others?

I believe being a LEO is a form of having permit to carry and this shows having a permit does NOTHING, to prove you are a responsible gun owner capable of carrying one.

Everyone would be all over some guy who just bough a gun and did the same thing. Plenty would talk about needing training etc.

None of it is worth 2 cents if you don't pay attention and practice it.

 

[bigwheelzip]

A bit more info...

Brevard County Sheriff’s Office mourns passing of deputy in off-duty incident | News | hometownnewsbrevard.com

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[ladder13]

Incomprehensible.

 

[margethatcher]

accidental death

People aren't generally aware that Bill Jordan shot a fellow officer in the next room while practicing his draw. Bill Jordan is sort of the father of the model 19.

 

[Breakaway500]

Glock 34..1 a.m. in the morning:

...The suspect then stated he pointed the firearm at Mr. Walsh and pulled the trigger but the gun didn’t go off.

Following that, the suspect pulled the slide back at which he point he still did not think the firearm was loaded.

Seriously?? Not an accident..and even manslaughter is too "nice" a charge.

 

[colt_saa]

Article said he was with dept since age 19. Surely that would not have been as a deputy, right? Probably some other capacity till 21?

21 has nothing to do with it

In Florida you can be a Sworn Law Enforcement Officer at age 19.

It used to be that you could be a reserve Office at 17, but I think that has changed since I was a kid

Yes, this is a terrible lose of a young mans life. The one who pulled the trigger will have to live with it the rest of his life. But, I have a hard time calling it an accident. It was flat willful disregard for the rules of safe gun handling by someone who had to have been taught better, was cleared in every way to own and carry a gun. NONE of that stopped him.

I am sure he went through far more training and vetting than a civilian carry permit holder. What I am saying is having a permit process with vetting and training will not stop stupid, nor irresponsible or those who chose not to pay attention to basic gun safety.

These two Deputies lived about 20 minutes south of me. Our Sheriff has already commented on the issue more than once. Sheriff Ivey is always on top of this kind of stuff, he runs a good Department

Sworn Deputies in Florida do get Firearms training, but Today's LEO is not always a gun person. Some are very anti-gun. Many do not pay more attention in class than what is necessary to pass and many forget even that.

IU used to have to work with a few members of the Command Staff to make sure at qualification time they did not fail since this is all done in a BIG group

This was beyond stupidity and the shooter will never forgive himself.

Under Florida Law, Manslaughter is the correct charge for what occurred

 

[steelslaver]

Doesn't a Glock lock open when you rack the slide on and empty magazine? Is it hard to tell that a magazine is in one?

Pointing it and pulling the trigger is bad enough, racking the slide and doing it again is beyond belief. Is something missing from this?

 

[ladder13]

Mind and body altering substance involved?

 

[Donn]

Sometimes training and experience can work in the other direction, carelessness.

 

[Road Rat]

All the Guvment rules/laws/etc. have not prevented one death.
Education on Firearm Safety, in middle school, should be a help.

Everything else is political Feelgood garbage!

 

[stansdds]

This was an act of sheer stupidity and as the saying goes, you can't fix stupid.

I'm not in favor of permits required in order to exercise a right as guaranteed in the constitution, but I am in favor of proper training. Anyone who is going to own a firearm should know how to properly maintain and use it, but I feel a tremor in the force, as if many in recent times have rushed out and purchased weapons and they know nothing about maintenance and use of said weapons.

 

[robertrwalsh]

There is a difference between "accident" and "stupid." This was unintentional so maybe accidental, but it had a large portion of stupid contributing to it.