Pulled over while carrying on out of state permit

[Golddollar]

I travel out of state to visit relatives, and hope that reciprocity from their home states regarding the permits I have will protect me. When Ohio finally decided to honor Pa. Licenses to Carry Firearms, I wanted to find out how my License would be recognized.

I was at a gun show in Ohio and there was a booth for an Ohio firearms association. I asked them how a PA License to Carry would be treated. The people there really didn't know and suggested talking with the State Trooper who was there. So I asked him what would happen if I was pulled over in Ohio and found to be carrying a concealed firearm while holding a license from another state. He said that the license would be checked to see if it was issued by a reciprocating state. So then I asked, "Is that a 5 minute or a 5 hour process?" He then proceeded to give me a boatload of attitude that I shouldn't carry a loaded gun in a vehicle and should carry the gun and ammunition separate. I thought I asked a legitimate question to see if I got stopped in Ohio whether I would soon be on my way or spending a night in jail.

So my question to all is have you ever been pulled over while carrying concealed using a permit issued by a state different from the one you were pulled over in? How were you treated? What was the end result from the stop? Thank you for your time.

 

[Dieseltech56]

No but as a PA resident I thought our carry permits were recognized in Ohio during our visit. When I recently renewed my permit I was given a paper showing all the current reciprocity agreements. I can scan it and email it to you if you'd like

 

[SMSgt]

It should be treated the same as an Ohio permit. The LEO answered your question.

 

[Bobbysixkiller]

I know most states recognize each other’s carry permits but you have to read that states laws to be sure of them. I know in certain states you don’t need a permit to open carry but you need one to conceal. Every state is different

 

[NCBeagle]

I am a North Carolina resident with NC CCW permit. I have been pulled over in West Virginia, Virginia, and Pennsylvania and many times in North Carolina and never, not once, been given a hard time by any law enforcement agency.

One funny story...We travel from NC to southwestern PA several times a year to visit family. They live way out in the country and we occasionally pack up a few extra guns for target practice outside. I live in suburban Charlotte, so we welcome the opportunity to shoot outside on a nice day. Well, an Oak Hill, WV (famous speed trap)police officer pulled us over in northbound 19 and I told him that we (my wife too) have CCW permits and I'm carry, she's carrying, and we have another one under this seat, and there's another one over there, and in the trunk we have a Colt AR-15, and a a bunch of other assorted handguns, and....on and on and on. He stopped me and said, "Well, it sounds like you've got things covered." May have been the only time an Oak Hill officer let somebody go without one of those sketchy city tickets.

 

[Jeppo]

I am a North Carolina resident with NC CCW permit. I have been pulled over in West Virginia, Virginia, and Pennsylvania and many times in North Carolina and never, not once, been given a hard time by any law enforcement agency.

One funny story...We travel from NC to southwestern PA several times a year to visit family. They live way out in the country and we occasionally pack up a few extra guns for target practice outside. I live in suburban Charlotte, so we welcome the opportunity to shoot outside on a nice day. Well, an Oak Hill, WV (famous speed trap)police officer pulled us over in northbound 19 and I told him that we (my wife too) have CCW permits and I'm carry, she's carrying, and we have another one under this seat, and there's another one over there, and in the trunk we have a Colt AR-15, and a a bunch of other assorted handguns, and....on and on and on. He stopped me and said, "Well, it sounds like you've got things covered." May have been the only time an Oak Hill officer let somebody go without one of those sketchy city tickets.

He was probably just afraid he'd piss you off.

 

[CB3]

I believe your state agency that issues your permit will have a chart with reciprocating states. Check that on-line. Reciprocal agreements are actually documented and recorded, I believe.

To get the best answer, check the website of the issuing agency in the state to which you are traveling.

This is rather critical legal advice specific to each state. Trying to get answers about others’ experiences and opinions about carrying elsewhere may be interesting, but it is legally useless.

 

[italiansport]

I was at a state police barracks in California one time. No problem as I was waiting for my wife to finish up some legal video work. A guy came in from Arizona and asked what the requirements were to bring his firearms from Arizona to California as he was relocating there. The troopers were clueless and I had to explain the regulations to him!
Jim

 

[Wise_A]

To be fair, asking him if it's a five minute or five hour process has a sort've snarky ring to it.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I've lived in Ohio for all 62 years of my life. The 5 minute vs 5 hour Question is a legitimate question. If pulled over by the OHP, or any of the large city PD's, the whole CCW thing, if otherwise legal, is a non-issue! But there are a few Small town/speed traps, that will hold you long enough for you tags to expire or until they get you to get mad. Entertainment is hard to come by in the sticks!

Columbus writes almost $1.5 million in tickets and court fines a day, they don't have time to waste making stuff up! In the 70's we had a 5 day stretch of Blue Flu, and almost no tickets were written during a contract dispute (safety was never compromised), the lack of income almost bankrupted the city!

Ivan

BTW, There is no quota on tickets. The police can write you as many as they think you need! So keep your Big Mouth Shut! (That is a line from my 27 year veteran training sergeant F-I-L!)

 

[keith44spl]

I travel out of state to visit relatives, and hope that reciprocity from their home states regarding the permits I have will protect me. When Ohio finally decided to honor Pa. Licenses to Carry Firearms, I wanted to find out how my License would be recognized.

I was at a gun show in Ohio and there was a booth for an Ohio firearms association. I asked them how a PA License to Carry would be treated. The people there really didn't know and suggested talking with the State Trooper who was there. So I asked him what would happen if I was pulled over in Ohio and found to be carrying a concealed firearm while holding a license from another state. He said that the license would be checked to see if it was issued by a reciprocating state.

So then I asked, "Is that a 5 minute or a 5 hour process?"

He then proceeded to give me a boatload of attitude that I shouldn't carry a loaded gun in a vehicle and should carry the gun and ammunition separate. I thought I asked a legitimate question to see if I got stopped in Ohio whether I would soon be on my way or spending a night in jail.

So my question to all is have you ever been pulled over while carrying concealed using a permit issued by a state different from the one you were pulled over in? How were you treated? What was the end result from the stop? Thank you for your time.

Ya just had to poke the Bear with a stick, didn't ya.

Sounds like you got just what you asked for.


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[kbm6893]

You could have asked the question a different way. “Thanks, troooer. How long would it take for the check to be conducted”. Would have been better.

 

[bigwheelzip]

We were stopped while carrying at a police roadblock checkpoint on the NC Cherokee reservation. They showed no interest that hubby was carrying, just that he was sober with a drivers license. Took less than a minute.

 

[Old cop]

I’m sorry that trooper gave you attitude when you asked a follow up Q. Even if you sounded snarky he should not have done that.

 

[Jim1392]

Another thing you might want to find out before you travel though different states is if you have an obligation to disclose you are armed. Here in NC you must disclose to the officer upon contact that you are armed. Some states I understand you have no duty to disclose.

 

[haywood]

The latest law in Ohio says we accept all other States CCW Permits. When I renewed my Ohio Permit in mid January I switched from the previous County. The Sheriff said my old Permit/License would be pulled from the system during the proses since I switched Counties. I told her I also have a Florida License. She said that was good to carry on until I got my Ohio License back.

 

[ken158]

I am a North Carolina resident with NC CCW permit. I have been pulled over in West Virginia, Virginia, and Pennsylvania and many times in North Carolina and never, not once, been given a hard time by any law enforcement agency.

One funny story...We travel from NC to southwestern PA several times a year to visit family. They live way out in the country and we occasionally pack up a few extra guns for target practice outside. I live in suburban Charlotte, so we welcome the opportunity to shoot outside on a nice day. Well, an Oak Hill, WV (famous speed trap)police officer pulled us over in northbound 19 and I told him that we (my wife too) have CCW permits and I'm carry, she's carrying, and we have another one under this seat, and there's another one over there, and in the trunk we have a Colt AR-15, and a a bunch of other assorted handguns, and....on and on and on. He stopped me and said, "Well, it sounds like you've got things covered." May have been the only time an Oak Hill officer let somebody go without one of those sketchy city tickets.

You sure get pulled over a lot... and I was in Oak Hill yesterday and came through unscathed. Generally, if you do nothing to call attention to yourself, you don’t have to justify anything.

 

[Pisgah]

Last year I made three round-trips from my home in SC to Maine to work on my brother-in-law's vacation home, a total of 6600 road miles in 10 states. Some of those states have reciprocal agreements with SC; in those states, I familiarized my self with what their laws say about encounters with police while armed, just in case. In the states where my license was no good, the gun was put in a small locked case and stowed in luggage in the trunk of my car.

But my main defense against encountering any sort of problem with police was -- I avoided getting stopped. I learned long ago that it takes 18 hours to make the drive whether I keep to the speed limit or push it, so while I avoid delays wherever possible I basically strive to conduct myself as the safest, most low-profile driver on the road. So far, so good!

 

[NCBeagle]

You sure get pulled over a lot... and I was in Oak Hill yesterday and came through unscathed. Generally, if you do nothing to call attention to yourself, you don’t have to justify anything.

Well, I fail miserably in that department. I drive a lot for work and often in something like a Corvette with a "hello officer" license plate. So, there's that.

I used to get pulled a lot...so put that on there as a friendly greeting, an ice breaker.

My earlier Vette...

These days, I roll in a "dad mobile" but I kept the tag. New Vette coming when my daughter does not need a car seat.

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[Golddollar]

Another thing you might want to find out before you travel though different states is if you have an obligation to disclose you are armed. Here in NC you must disclose to the officer upon contact that you are armed. Some states I understand you have no duty to disclose.

Ohio requires disclosure immediately too. There is a video about what happened to a citizen in Canton, Ohio when he tried to inform the officer who stopped him but that's a story for another thread.