Whats the deal with these misaligned barrels on recent S&W revolvers? Is this becoming the norm? Has quality control gotten that bad. I have also read horrible stories about lousy repair work. I was thinking about a new model 63. Maybe I should consider an older one.
quality of new S&W's
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desmodue
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New production S&W revolvers are the best ever produced. The older guns are pure junk, I urge everyone to buy only new high quality Saf-T-Hammer era weapons and avoid wasting your money on those junk pinned and recessed antiques. If everyone will exercise a little common sense, soon the market value on those old over-rated craftsman built weapons will plummet and stupid people like me will be able to buy the sub-standard historical examples at their true basement level value.
As far as I'm concerned, we hear about the 1 in 1000 that comes up defective.
I've bought two new S&W's in the past couple years, both flawless.
Can't go wrong with an older one either.
I've always believed that the reason we all feel that the older ones were so much better is that the bad eggs from that generation have all either been fixed or destroyed, leaving us with only the good ones and the false belief that every gun made back then was as good as the great one we have.
I've bought two new S&W's in the past couple years, both flawless.
Can't go wrong with an older one either.
I've always believed that the reason we all feel that the older ones were so much better is that the bad eggs from that generation have all either been fixed or destroyed, leaving us with only the good ones and the false belief that every gun made back then was as good as the great one we have.
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I think the new S&W revolvers are excellent and that a few get out with defects like with any other manufactured piece of equipment and that is true with every company making products. This is true during what time frame you want to look at in history and the real important thing is how the company and their customer service acts when there is a problem. The quality level of companies can go up or down depending on their management and their financial position but with the new ISO standards that companies are getting it's usually better then in the past.
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I think we hear from the complainers and whiners and the vast majority without problems do not post that they had "no issues."
BigBill
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I just got into the S&W revolvers only because of Smith & Wessons history and them being works of art. I have no issues with my three new S&W's nor my two used S&W revolvers nor do i plan on having any problems with them. They all appear to be of excellent quality and craftsmanship too.
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All the new ones I've seen have been really nice. I only own one, it has the lock, and it's been an awesome gun so far. I think the bad things about them are blown out of proportion
DeeBee
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There are a million threads on this, and probably requires no more discussion. I would buy older ones , if you don't like the new ones..
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My Smith revolver ownership spans guns from the 60's...some bought new...through a new J-Frame purchased about six months ago. I no longer have an interest in anything produced circa late 90's. New stuff may be quality appliances, but nothing to really care about/covet.
mauiblue
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I would like to buy a brand new Model 639 no lock but the ones I see on Gun Broker but the seller I see selling them (few months ago) wanted too much money. I'll end up buying a new one from Bud's Gun Shop for less money. I'm not afraid of buying the new generation of Smith & Wesson.
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Laddy Smith
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And to add...
Agreed & back in the day, if a bad one did show up you might tell your neighbor and the guy at the barber shop.
Today, if there's something wrong, millions of people hear about it and it gets repeated and enhanced over and over.
Now many people take their advice from some guy on a forum 2000 miles away from them. Could be a basement dwelling mall ninja wanna-be that uses a poor grip he learned from rap videos.....but it's the manufacturers fault for not installing a limp-wrist-grip-compensator.....
Lad
Agreed & back in the day, if a bad one did show up you might tell your neighbor and the guy at the barber shop.
Today, if there's something wrong, millions of people hear about it and it gets repeated and enhanced over and over.
Now many people take their advice from some guy on a forum 2000 miles away from them. Could be a basement dwelling mall ninja wanna-be that uses a poor grip he learned from rap videos.....but it's the manufacturers fault for not installing a limp-wrist-grip-compensator.....
Lad
notsofast
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I have a 627x8 with a badly finished muzzle crown, slightly over rotated barrel and slightly bent ejector rod. S&W doesn't pay me to be a quality control consultant, through my purchase (ie. money) I expect them to provide a properly finished gun.
I have bought a 629 classic, classic series 29, a 629 Talo 3in DLX and an M&P 45acp compact in the last 2 years and these are the best shooting guns we have in the house among many SA and Ruger weapons.Still dislike the ILS though it has never been a problem and these guns get shot a lot.
