Question about ejector on my 586 no dash.

[Hillbilly77]

I was shooting my 586 tonight and one of the two pins in the back side of the cylinder on the case ejector was working its way out and binding up the cylinder.
I took it out so it wouldn't fall out and saved it.

Is the pin just a guide for the ejector?
Is this common on these? Do I need a new pin? Does a replacement pin just press in?
I quit shooting it after i saw the loose pin because I wasn't sure if it was safe to shoot like that.
I'm new to handguns, so any help would be great.

I asked here instead of in the smithing section because I figured that there's a lot more revolver-specific traffic here.
Thanks.

 

[chief38]

The fact that the pin backed out means it is not fit tight enough. If it were my gun I would pull the pin out, measure it with a Micrometer or Caliper and use drill rod (or an actual drill bit shank) to fashion a new pin. I would make the new pin .001 - .0015 larger in diameter to prevent it from happening again. If you do plan on doing this, remove the cylinder from the frame and then unscrew the ejector rod (reverse thread) to make the job easier. While these are not everyday occurrences I can't say it is rare either. Pins do back out from time to time.

Chief38

 

[snubbiefan]

The "poor mans fix" would be to just put the pin on a solid surface (like an anvil) and tap the pin (lower part to be inserted into the cylinder) with a hammer to disfigure it a bit for a tighter fit. NO...I do not mean flatten the blame thing. You get the picture. You don't want to do anything that will damage the bore in the cylinder....just slightly disfigure one end of the pin. It doesn't take much. If you bought some new pins you may still wind-up with the same problem.

I guess you could clean the bore and the pin and lock it in with thread-locker. This is something that you don't remove on a routine basis and actually should stay in the cylinder for the life of the gun anyway.

 

[weaverman]

Since no one commented, these pins are not just a guide. They actually assist in driving the cylinder when the hand operates against the extractor. If you run without these, you will soon experience what appears to be a loose lock-up.

 

[Gman56]

I would call S&W about it. Is there an m stamped on it by the serial number? If not them it needs the recall fix and S&W will pay the shipping to and from! I would send it to S&W any way it is a classic revolver a no dash is quite collectable!Call S&W you have a very nice revolver.

 

[Hillbilly77]

I would call S&W about it. Is there an m stamped on it by the serial number? If not them it needs the recall fix and S&W will pay the shipping to and from! I would send it to S&W any way it is a classic revolver a no dash is quite collectable!Call S&W you have a very nice revolver.

I actually just got it back from Smith last Monday 6/4/12 from having the M-stamp recall done and it had a broken hammer stud that they replaced.
Looking at the pin, it looks bent and worn, so I'm reluctant to try to modify it and re-install it.
I think I will call and see about having a new pin shipped. I hate the thought of sending my gun back in again. They had it for 1 1/2 months last time.

 

[weaverman]

Hillbilly - I think I can save you a little trouble on this one since I've been down the same road with the same model/dash piece. The original PNs you need are NLA. Fortunately for me the parts guy at S&W took a little time to find a replacement PN for me. What you need are 2) 07724 Pins. I ordered 4 since they were less than a buck and shipping was more than the parts. I installed them with a dab of red Loctite, since I couldn't imagine ever needing to remove them again. Both of mine were missing when I got the gun, and the LGS said it needed a Hand. I looked it over more closely and saw the pins were missing. Locks up tight now.

 

[Hillbilly77]

Hillbilly - I think I can save you a little trouble on this one since I've been down the same road with the same model/dash piece. The original PNs you need are NLA. Fortunately for me the parts guy at S&W took a little time to find a replacement PN for me. What you need are 2) 07724 Pins. I ordered 4 since they were less than a buck and shipping was more than the parts. I installed them with a dab of red Loctite, since I couldn't imagine ever needing to remove them again. Both of mine were missing when I got the gun, and the LGS said it needed a Hand. I looked it over more closely and saw the pins were missing. Locks up tight now.

Thanks for the input. I will definately call and see about these part numbers. I think I'll take the same avenue and try to get the replacements x4 just to be sure.

 

[Hillbilly77]

Hillbilly - I think I can save you a little trouble on this one since I've been down the same road with the same model/dash piece. The original PNs you need are NLA. Fortunately for me the parts guy at S&W took a little time to find a replacement PN for me. What you need are 2) 07724 Pins. I ordered 4 since they were less than a buck and shipping was more than the parts. I installed them with a dab of red Loctite, since I couldn't imagine ever needing to remove them again. Both of mine were missing when I got the gun, and the LGS said it needed a Hand. I looked it over more closely and saw the pins were missing. Locks up tight now.

I just got off the phone with Smith & Wesson Customer Service.
I gave them my name, address, and my gun's S/N and they are sending me two new pins - FREE! They told me they would get the pins sent right out. I asked "Don't you need my payment information?" "No sir, I'll just send them to you. Have a nice day."

 

[snubbiefan]

That is not all that unusual. I would imagine one person could not call often and get free parts all the time, but I have also. I needed a center-pin spring and the rep asked me..."how many do you want". Never even asked, or changed me a dime. Two springs showed-up in the mail within a week.