Question about gun show gold dots

[hdfinder47]

I'm sure their reloads are fine for reloads. But I also think that they should label as "Reloaded Ammunition" as a matter of full disclosure. Labeling "Gold Dot Factory Loaded" implies that the manufacturer of Gold Dot loaded them at their factory. Not dishonest, per se, but misleading, IMO. Evidently their quality is normally good if they are selling out at shows where folks are aware that they are reloads. Anyway, now you know so use them for practice and enjoy the good price.

 

[JohnnieB]

First and foremost, I wish to make it perfectly clear, I am not in any way associated with Georgia Arms, other than being a repeatedly satisfied customer of their "New" and "Reloaded" ammo and their cast bullets.

Perhaps a phrase like "factory loaded in recycled cases" would be more correct, but the term "factory loaded" is technically correct since the only difference between their "New" ammo and "Reloaded" ammo is the empty brass cases they put in the hoppers of their mechanized assembly lines. However, I do agree that the distinction between "factory loaded" "New" and "Recycled" brass could be better defined on their packaging, but I take all labeling (and advertising) with a grain of salt. (Caveat Emptor)

Personally, I've never experienced any problems with their ammo, either reloaded or new, but I'm sure some less than perfect examples do slip through their QC just like it does with every other major ammunition manufacturer, including those with instant brand-name recognition. Maybe, I've just been lucky so far.

Before retiring, I only had time to reload or to shoot, but not both, so I bought their ammo when I ran out of what I had managed to reload when I couldn't shoot. Now that I am retired, my reloading efforts more or less keeps up with my shooting habit, but I still buy "Canned Heat" from Georgia Arms when I feel the need for more brass.

If you're into reloading, and can get past the labeling issues and/or QC faux pas, the difference between ammo loaded in "New" and "Recycled" .38spl and .45acp brass is $0.06/round (1,000pk) while empty Starline brass (1,000pk) sells for $135.99 and $159.99 respectfully at Midway. Granted, it would be Once-Fired brass by the time you reloaded it, but even Once-Fired brass retails for more than $60.00/1,000.

John

 

[Jamie]

Is it just me, the one thing that caught my eye was 'gold dot', as in Speer. Yeah the re-load, recycle, new should all be clear, especially at gun shows, (I've learned the hard way, probably like everyone else, to be careful of 'gun show re-loads'), but the 'gold dot' thing.....maybe it's just me.

 

[thomp45acp]

The projectile is a speer gold dot make and the brass is a mix. Not bad at all. Maybe they are not as honest as they need to be but I have shot Georgia Arms for about 5 years now and I have not had a problem at all. I would not feel bad at all carrying what you just bought for duty/protection and you got a good deal.

 

[everReady Rob]

Let me say something, if for nobody's benefit other than my own.

I don't know a thing about Georgia Arms, other than they have very loyal customers and customers who are not at all happy w/the product. It strikes me in the difference, totally good or totally bad. I have no dog in that fight ... er ... hunt. (M Vick you've ruined that saying too). I live a thousand miles away from Georgia and have never used or seen the product. Okay?

My beef, being a new reloader and throughly enjoying the process, is that there is so much negative thinking about re loaders and reloads in general that it gets under my skin. I am very proud of my reloads, BUT, understand the concern of many people who use somebody else's reload and have a problem, granted this is usually the guy who has a buddy who does reloads and is really good and ... I have stood next to people at the range and heard the talk, I understand what has happened. But there is a new generation of self reloaders who are taking pride in the product and KNOW HOW TO PRODUCE A QUALITY, SAFE LOAD and do not ask people to use there reload, just to make themselves feel ... good ...

Maybe, the most irritation comes from the reloaders themselves, who call it anything but what it really is. Most likely, its my problem. Maybe, I need a new dictionary.

Well, at least I feel better. Rant off (for now).

 

[JohnnieB]

Maybe, I need a new dictionary.

Nah; You just need to flip back a couple pages and look up recycling.

Reloading ammo is one of the earliest forms of recycling. It predates "Green" meaning anything other than a color.
In addition to reusing cartridge cases, there are those amongst us that dig lead out of trees, dirt banks and other backstops, melt it down and cast it into bullets.

I nearly always call the home assembly process reloading, but I like to stir the pot every now and then to get people thinking outside the box.
I even call it reloading when I put a new primer in a new case, fill it with new powder and top it off with a new bullet.

Glad you're feelin' better Rob,

John

 

[mtime7]

If I were Georgia Arms I wouldn't call my remanufactured ammo reloads.. What is the first thing a new shooter learns about reloads, " Don't shoot someone elses reloads". They are a remanufacturer and manufacturer of ammo. I shot there ammo for years with no problems and at times were very happy to see them at the show because they were the only people you could get a can of ammo from...I have also heard some people bad mouth there ammo, only once by a person who said it happened first hand, (223 would not chamber) and he told me he called them and they replaced the can no questions asked. the rest were a freind of a freind of a freind whos gun blew up, but never anyone who could actually give a name of the person whos gun blew up

 

[REM 3200]

I even call it reloading when I put a new primer in a new case, fill it with new powder and top it off with a new bullet.

I think most of us do.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I've shot a fair amount of Georgia Arms ammo in the past and it was all of good quality. Like said already, they use recycled brass, not to fear...

 

[fulwood]

Hi Guys, the reason the label says " Factory Loaded" is to differentiate between the "three guys at a bench" with a handloader vs the arsenal style machines used by Georgia Arms. It is remanufactured, but, on the same machines used to load new ammo. All the same 12 points of quality control as used by all the large manufacturers. It is, in fact, "factory Loaded". The new ammo produced by Georgia Arms is labeled; "New Ammunition". I hope this helps, they are not trying to mislead anyone, just separate their remanufactured ammo from the "basement reloaders", and no offense to those guys either as many of my friends load in their basement, it's just that I'm sure that all of us have had some less that satisfactory experience with ammo loaded by someone who did not have much experience or lacked the proper equipment and procedures. Georgia Arms has been a commercial producer of ammunition for law enforcement and civillians since 1980 and has a good reputation for quality control and standing behind their products.

 

[senecaap]

Georgia arms is top notch ammo, I have shot it for years, and have NEVER had a problem. In my .44 I get better accuracy from their Gold Dot load than from the Speer loading. Add the fact that it runs close to half the price of factory ammo and you have a winner.

 

[delta-419]

Georgia Arms is big here in the Florida Panhandle and most often sold out after the first day at gunshows. At least the selection dwindles fast.I have shot a lot of their "Cowboy" loads over the years in my old guns and in SASS matches. Never a problem. It beats paying $35-40 a box for brand names.

 

[Calaveras Slim]

you do have to have a lic.,but aside from an environmental impact statement and liability ins. and a commercially zoned location can get one. ammo should have been labeled remanufatured.

Yeppers....

Shud have sed remanned....

It may shoot good but it isn't factory loaded, but remanned and I wouldn't buy from them. If they are misleading on their labeling, then what else are they misleading about?