Question about "push off"

[bigjerm80]

Good evening everyone.
I recently purchased a LNIB 36-2 with factory bobbed hammer and "DAO."
Well, I am able to cock the hammer in SA and can produce "push off" every so often. My question is, is this something to be worried about? Should I get it looked at? Is there anything else that will get messed up if it is not remedied?
Technically it's "DAO" and was purchased for that reason. I will never pull the hammer back for SA capabilities.

Thanks

 

[Gasman1972]

I think it's important to understand that "push off" can be forced on a perfect revolver. How much force are you applying to the hammer?

 

[bigjerm80]

Very lightly, no forcing.

 

[Pisgah]

Someone will correct me if I am wrong -- but I do not think the 39-2 was ever sent out of the factory as a DAO. AFAIK, it was always a "traditional" DA/SA. Could be someone did a not-so-good DAO "conversion".

 

[bigjerm80]

It's factory. It was a special run that also sports a matte black finish. Box states DAO as well.

 

[icemn]

If it were me, I be worried enough that there may have been some inappropriate gunsmithing done to it and perhaps resulting liability, that I'd want to get it looked at by the factory. In the event, it was my gun and I were to later sell it, I'd want a factory seal of approval on it.

 

[arc2x4]

I thought DAO Double action only was not supposed to have a functioning SA notch on the sear since you are not intended to cock a DAO and shoot it single action. Does it work properly and set off all the rounds in Double action? If so it should be good to go.

 

[bigjerm80]

All rounds go off shooting DA.
When I purchased the 36 I didn't think there would be SA capabilities but when mention in a thread a few months ago another member told me his 37-2 DAO had SA capabilities as well.
I had planned on taking into a smith soon but wanted to see what other people thought of it.

 

[Double-O-Dave]

Jgould:

I'm confused - is it a Model 39 (8 shot, 9mm, semi-auto), or a Model 36 (5 shot, .38 Special, J-frame revolver)? Your initial post referred to a Model 39, your last referred to a Model 36. Which is it?


Regards,

Dave

 

[CajunBass]

Jgould:

I'm confused - is it a Model 39 (8 shot, 9mm, semi-auto), or a Model 36 (5 shot, .38 Special, J-frame revolver)? Your initial post referred to a Model 39, your last referred to a Model 36. Which is it?


Regards,

Dave

Oh good. It wasn't just me.

 

[bigjerm80]

Oh wow! My apologies, I didn't even catch that. It is a model 36-2, chiefs special.

 

[Dpris]

Push-off is an armorer/gunsmith checkpoint, if it's there it SHOULD be corrected.
I wouldn't keep shooting it un-corrected if it were mine.
If it cocks at all & shows push-off, something's wrong and it needs to fixed. It may be an indicator of other things going on inside, too.
Denis

 

[old bear]

Dave and Cajun, you two were not the only ones who were confused about the gun being discussed..

 

[gunblade]

My guess is the single action cocking notch on the hammer still has just enough of an edge to catch the trigger sometimes. Shouldn't matter in shooting it. If it were mine I'd take the hammer out and make sure the notch was filed completely away...have rendered a few of my revolvers DAO that way.

 

[target tech]

I have two factory bobbed hammer/ DAO J frames. One is a 3" 60-3 and the other is a 37-2. Neither of these guns will actually thumb cock to the single action notch. I think your real problem, as stated earlier, is that the hammer can be cocked at all, not that you have push off.

 

[pilgrim6a]

I'll give you a real puzzler. My 642-2 has a full cock notch! You can get the hammer to a cocked single action condition. Of course you have to have the side plate off to do this.
The question is WHY? This is a DAO revolver. Designed from the ground up as such. It boggles the mind!

 

[blujax01]

I have a Brinks M64 factory DAO with a full cock notch.

My guess is that the same mold is used with a block where the hammer spur would be and S&W doesn't bother with taking the time to file the hammer notch down because it's academic.

If I want to attempt to fire this gun SA I have to:
1) pull the trigger ever-so-slightly,
2) slip my thumb in-between the hammer and frame, and
3) pull it back without slipping off the top.

With a full complement of SBHP's in the cylinder of course!

In a practical sense in the real world, cocking this gun is a ridiculous endeavor.

And if someone thinks S&W should idiot-proof it because "it could happen" I say one would really have to go out of their way to make it happen and let Darwin weed 'em out.