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To me the price seems a bit optamistic, a more reasonable counter offer would be in the range of 400-425. At 3000 rounds, the gun is definately very well broken in.
If it has a dull black slide, I would strongly recomend that you field strip the gun and check the frame rails for wear. Sig's Nitron coating is fairly abrasive and these guns must be run wet with grease. If they are lubricated with light oil, rapid wear of the frame rails will result. If you see nude aluminum, which has a whitish color cast to it, you don't want the gun at any price. Sig anodizes the aluminum frames which is a shiny silver color and is quite wear resistant when properly lubricated. However, once that anodized layer is worn away, the raw aluminum beneath is quite soft and wears with amazing rapidity. Loss of that anodized layer basically means the frame will need to be replaced, which Sig will only do for the original owner. BTW, a properly lubricated Sig can probably run for in excess of 100,000 rounds before the frame needs replacing, in improperly lubricated Sig is probably done at about 3000 rounds.
Now, if the slide is raw stainless steel, the lubrication requirements are not nearly as critical. While a light film of grease is still advisable, it's not nearly as critical as it is with the Nitron finish and a lighter amount is acceptable.
BTW, as you may guess, I am a fan of Sig pistols. However, I am not a fan of their Nitron finish. While it's impervious to holster wear, you could probably use it to hone a knife.
As for the ammo, currently 380 is nearly impossible to find and many dealers are charging in excess of 60 dollars for 50 rounds. So, 1000 rounds for 275 is currently a bargain but it could easily turn into a slight loss once normal stocks of this caliber become available.
About that action job. Naturally, since it's had someone working the action over, you will want to test the SA sear for push off by pushing firmly on a cocked hammer, if you can push the hammer off cock, at the least it will need new sear parts and is unsafe in that condition. I am not a fan of lightening the trigger pull on any handgun because the end result is usually an issue with light strikes on the primer. However, just as with S&W revolvers, there is a selection of lighter main springs available and it's not difficult to replace a weak spring. In addition, recent Sig's have had horrible DA triggers when new and a good gunsmith can do a lot to smooth the DA trigger. So can about 500 rounds of DA practice. As for the SA trigger on a Sig, it shouldn't be touched and the non SRT version is every bit as good as that in a K frame, which means superb. Since the P232 hasn't yet been offered with the SRT trigger option, you'll find that the single action trigger will break very cleanly with about 4 lbs. of pull with the standard main spring.
Finally, the P230 and P232 both have a reputation for biting the hand that fires one. If you have large hands you'll have to be cautious about not taking a high grip on the pistol or you'll get a first hand demonstration of slide bite. Other than that, they have an excellent reputation for being reliable and accurate.
If it has a dull black slide, I would strongly recomend that you field strip the gun and check the frame rails for wear. Sig's Nitron coating is fairly abrasive and these guns must be run wet with grease. If they are lubricated with light oil, rapid wear of the frame rails will result. If you see nude aluminum, which has a whitish color cast to it, you don't want the gun at any price. Sig anodizes the aluminum frames which is a shiny silver color and is quite wear resistant when properly lubricated. However, once that anodized layer is worn away, the raw aluminum beneath is quite soft and wears with amazing rapidity. Loss of that anodized layer basically means the frame will need to be replaced, which Sig will only do for the original owner. BTW, a properly lubricated Sig can probably run for in excess of 100,000 rounds before the frame needs replacing, in improperly lubricated Sig is probably done at about 3000 rounds.
Now, if the slide is raw stainless steel, the lubrication requirements are not nearly as critical. While a light film of grease is still advisable, it's not nearly as critical as it is with the Nitron finish and a lighter amount is acceptable.
BTW, as you may guess, I am a fan of Sig pistols. However, I am not a fan of their Nitron finish. While it's impervious to holster wear, you could probably use it to hone a knife.
As for the ammo, currently 380 is nearly impossible to find and many dealers are charging in excess of 60 dollars for 50 rounds. So, 1000 rounds for 275 is currently a bargain but it could easily turn into a slight loss once normal stocks of this caliber become available.
About that action job. Naturally, since it's had someone working the action over, you will want to test the SA sear for push off by pushing firmly on a cocked hammer, if you can push the hammer off cock, at the least it will need new sear parts and is unsafe in that condition. I am not a fan of lightening the trigger pull on any handgun because the end result is usually an issue with light strikes on the primer. However, just as with S&W revolvers, there is a selection of lighter main springs available and it's not difficult to replace a weak spring. In addition, recent Sig's have had horrible DA triggers when new and a good gunsmith can do a lot to smooth the DA trigger. So can about 500 rounds of DA practice. As for the SA trigger on a Sig, it shouldn't be touched and the non SRT version is every bit as good as that in a K frame, which means superb. Since the P232 hasn't yet been offered with the SRT trigger option, you'll find that the single action trigger will break very cleanly with about 4 lbs. of pull with the standard main spring.
Finally, the P230 and P232 both have a reputation for biting the hand that fires one. If you have large hands you'll have to be cautious about not taking a high grip on the pistol or you'll get a first hand demonstration of slide bite. Other than that, they have an excellent reputation for being reliable and accurate.
didnt see this until today.
Anyway, this is my gun.
It is the stainless version made in Germany.
The action work was done by Teddy Jacobsen, includes crown recut, jeweling of trigger parts. The work was done by Teddy in 2003. Before he became semi retired.
It has been very well taken care of.
The for sale add is still in the classified area...
Anyway, this is my gun.
It is the stainless version made in Germany.
The action work was done by Teddy Jacobsen, includes crown recut, jeweling of trigger parts. The work was done by Teddy in 2003. Before he became semi retired.
It has been very well taken care of.
The for sale add is still in the classified area...
scooter123,
Despite deuterij's apparently inconsiderate deletion of his original post, please know that your detailed reply WAS read and appreciated by others. Some of this was not only new information to me, but may well be useful in the future.
Thanks!
520
Despite deuterij's apparently inconsiderate deletion of his original post, please know that your detailed reply WAS read and appreciated by others. Some of this was not only new information to me, but may well be useful in the future.
Thanks!
520
scooter123
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Matt, now that I know that your P232 is a German Stainless version, I would like to ammend my comment about the price. What you have is a rare bird and that stainless frame just adds to it's value as well as the longevity of the pistol. In short, your asking price is not only fair, it may be 75 to 100 dollars low. Bottomline, it's a sweet price for that particular P232.
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