Rambling Thoughts on New k6s

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The FFL I use is a master gunsmith. I had him check the gun over before I picked it up. He test fired six rounds and checked out the specs. All good except the trigger pull was "rough" like catching in two spots as it is slowly pulled back. I dryfired the gun with Tipton snap caps and it didn't seem like a bad trigger pull to me. I dry fired the gun with snap caps a bit at home before going to the range. At the range I shot both my Ruger LCR .357 and the Kimber to determine POA/POI and grouping with various ammo. The distance was 7 yds and for testing purposes my forearms were rested on the bench/table. I tested Speer Gold Dot .357 135 gr short barrel, Speer Gold Dot .38+P 135 gr short barrel, range grade ammo .38 158 gr and 125 gr. It became obvious that the gunsmith was correct regarding the rough trigger. I was pressing slowly trying to make accurate shots for the test. Sometimes it felt like the trigger would bind up. The LCR trigger was far superior and easy to shoot. The Ruger shot the SGD .357 a little better than the SGD .38+P and the Kimber shot the SGD .38+P better than the .357. This may be unique to these two specific guns. A different Kimber and LCR could have the opposite results. The Kimber shot the SGD, both .38+P and .357 2.5 inches low and the range ammo, both the 125 gr and 158 gr, 3.5 inches low at 7 yards. The LCR shot the SGD about 1.5 inches low at 7 yds-both the .38+P and .357. Dead on as to elevation with the 158 gr and really low with the 125 gr-3.5 inches. The good news is both guns windage was very good. I then shot off hand at 7yds to include one handed at 7 yds and both hands at 15 yds at a 8" paper plate The Kimber did very well. This was with the 158 gr range ammo. The LCR had one flyer and I suspect larger groups, difficult to tell, but the LCR doesn't like that particular 158 gr round but does well with the 125 gr round. I just called Kimber to set up a ticket to check out the trigger and see if they can/will do anything regarding the shooting low but I don't know how that can be "fixed" as Kimber doesn't have front sights of various heights. I suppose I could get a white dot front sight and file it down a bit. It looks like the FO front sight sits low and that may work. But the Kimber certainly kilt the evil paper plate at 15 yds that was treating me. Certainly accurate enough for SD purposes. But for the money I paid I want a much better trigger than I have. I assume Kimber will fix the trigger. Conclusions:
1. I didn't fully realize how great a gun the LCR .357 is
2. I think the K6s will be super snubbie accurate with a better trigger. It looks to have very good accuracy potential especially at distance for a subbie.
Does anyone know the distance and bullet weight the K6s is regulated for. I asked CS and they had no idea. In fact stated the sights were not set for any specific bullet weight and distance! The way I killed Mr. Paper Plate I think Kimber may have regulated the sights for 158 gr at 15yds.
 
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I have a K6S, and the trigger is pretty much perfect IMO. That said, I have a LCR327 and love it about as much as the Kimber. The LCR trigger smoothed out beautifully and got maybe a pound lighter after several hundred dry fires and lubing the trigger as per the manual.

I have not fired a LCR357, but how does the recoil compare to the K6S? I found 125gr 357 harsh from the K6S, but controllable.

As far as accuracy, I put everything I shot from the K6S on a paper plate at 7 yds, which was good enough for me.
 
Found a great deal on a 3” K6 but would prefer a 2”. One more round then the 640 I carried. At 50’ it shot right where I aimed with .357 158 gr ammo but was brutal, so was the 640. After 25 rds there was a blister at the base of my thumb. It seems bigger then a J frame, carry’s about the same as a 2 1/2” model 19. With a 2” bbl it would be easier to conceal in the pocket. Nice gun, want to shoot it with the .38 wad cutters I load to see it’s potental. Happy so far with it, Larry
 
Doc I only fired 5 rds of the SGD .357 in the Ruger and 6 rds in the Kimber.
These are the LCR carry load and I'm almost out. Also I was so focused on trying to shoot accurately and the K6s trigger was giving me a fit that I didn't pay that much attention to recoil between the LcR and K6s. But from "bad" memory I say they were similar. The Ruger 6 oz lighter but with great grips and polymer frame soaked up the recoil of the lighter weight. I didn't find the exposed backstrap of the Kimber too harsh. I think I noticed more "hand pounding" with the first couple of shots with the Kimber but not severe. I would really like to have something like the LCR grips on the K6s :-) Remember the SGD .357 is a mild .357 load. I think I would need to test some hotter .357 for there to be a significant difference in perceived recoil between these guns. The SGD .357 is as hot of a load as I plan to shoot in these guns unless I get carried away and shoot BB .38+P 158 gr. That's my carry load for a Smith 65, 3", RB. I was impressed by the off-hand accuracy of the Kimber at 15 yds. If I get the trigger sorted out I can see banging a plate at 25 yds where the extra weight and sights of the Kimber pays off.
 
I am surprised at the fact there were hitches in the trigger on your Kimber. I have owned one since they came out and mine is absolutely perfect throughout the entire stroke. I have shot a few Ruger's and also found them to be very smooth. The accuracy of a snubbie is in the hands of the shooter. Practice, and more practice. Literally any of them should shoot into a 6" plate at 30' which fir me, is accurate enough for self defense purposes.
 
I am surprised at the fact there were hitches in the trigger on your Kimber. I have owned one since they came out and mine is absolutely perfect throughout the entire stroke. I have shot a few Ruger's and also found them to be very smooth. The accuracy of a snubbie is in the hands of the shooter. Practice, and more practice. Literally any of them should shoot into a 6" plate at 30' which fir me, is accurate enough for self defense purposes.

I am comfortable that Kimber will smooth out the trigger. It isn't noticeable pulling the trigger smoothly, quickly to the rear. If pulled slowly it is very noticeable. I suspect a little polishing by Kimber. The Kimber was nailing a 10"plate at 15 yds with 158 gr .38 cheap range ammo. Very accurate. This was off-hand and firing as soon as I was back on target. Windwage spread was tight. Shots were strung vertically but not badly and this was operator error sight picture I think.
 
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