Range vist with New Scope

[scaredstr8]

Today i went to the range with my 15-22 with my new red dot reflex sight. I sighted it in within about 4 minutes and was shooting bulleyes in no time. Then the dot disapeared and i was left with just the line on top because i was using the cross hairs with the red dot in the middle. I think it is the battery i have to go get one.

Problem Number 2

As i was shooting i was got maybe 5 fail to fires most likely due to the ***edited*** cheap ammo. But then i looked and a couple of times i saw a bullet in the chamber ready to fire and another bullet behind it trying to push itself into the chamber to fire also. I do not know if it was the way i loaded the magazine idk. And i could have sworn 2 bullets fired at once 2 times but i might be crazy. Let me know what you think. Thanks

 

[DasFriek]

Problem number 2 would be squibs and id not shoot the rest of that ammo if it was happening so much. Its caused by a round that has little or no powder in the case and the bullet just comes out of the case by the power of the primer and gets stuck in the barrel. In a high powered gun or pistol this will blow your barrel up or make it bulge and make it useless.
Its really bad and i would NOT shoot that ammo again, BTW what type was it?
About the sight i hope its just a battery, But most battery's can last 60 hours too 1000 hours depending on many factors. If it slowly got dimmer i wouldn't worry much. But if it stopped all of a sudden id say you may have to send the sight in for repair or replace it. But trying a new battery is the first thing to do.

If your having so many failures to fire look at the extracted shell when you pull the bolt back and make sure the bullet is still in the case, Ifs its not it may be stuck in your barrel and most times it wont shoot out from the second round but stack up until the gun explodes or jambs with the barrel stuffed full of lead.

 

[scaredstr8]

it was winchester 333 pack. Id tell u the truth i think it is the way i load up the magazine because it wouldnt happen every magazine only once and a while.

 

[DasFriek]

When i load my mags wrong it wont chamber the round but it gets pushed forwards in the mag in a stovepipe position, But the bullet is still attached in the mag. The round usually gets mangled also.

I think i may know whats up, Pull a few rounds from the box and pull on the lead bullet and see how much force it takes to pull the round out of the case by hand.
Im thinking the gun is loading the bullet ok and its fitting tightly in the chamber and the ammo ends up a dud and you eject it, But the bullet is in the case so weakly it gets pulled out and left in the barrel when your extract the case by hand.

Are you getting good primer strikes on the primers? Or are the rounds just duds? I stopped buying Winchester 333 after i had many duds myself. And i wont use Remington bulk 525 due to it has bobble head lead that wiggles in the case.
Either way i say try another ammo before you have a bad incident from that ammo.

 

[scaredstr8]

yes that is exactly right after i eject one the problems occurs. I life in Ny and i dont know what other ammo to get that is reasonable cheap seeing that i send almost all 333 down the range in 1 hr. But i will try thanks .

 

[DasFriek]

Walmart is always the best place if you have some place close.
You mainly just need to avoid duds until the chamber looses up a bit and eventually it may not longer be any issue.
You can still shoot them tho, Just take a long cleaning rod with you and after a failure to fire and you eject the offending round, Lock the bolt back and push that rod down the barrel and make sure its clear and clean.
Thats a hassle to me and id much prefer to look for another ammo.

How is the primer stricks on these duds? Were they deep enough on the case that its not light primer hits or just the ammo's issue?
Is a good place to order from in nothing is available locally.
Solid Point : Ammunition To Go
I always have best luck from Federal and Aguila made ammo. I mainly use Federal 550 bulk packs from Walmart for $16 a box.

 

[scaredstr8]

are the cci blazers good?
aguila?
federal american eagle?
federal champion?

Please let me know bc ill buy them all lol
Thanks

 

[scaredstr8]

The range says to use hollow point but the soild point has more options and no one checks.

 

[DasFriek]

are the cci blazers good?
aguila?
federal american eagle?
federal champion?

Please let me know bc ill buy them all lol
Thanks

Many people may like Winchesters, Its just i don't.

PLS answer about the primer strikes as thats more important than what ammo you use.
If your having light primer strikes and have a tight chamber it may not matter what ammo you use, Thats a mechanical issue and not the ammo.
All of the above you listed would be fine by my opinion. But their is a "Recommended" ammo list from S&W floating around in a thread here somewhere.

 

[DasFriek]

The range says to use hollow point but the soild point has more options and no one checks.

Hollow points have been known to cause more issues in feeding in some .22's but ive not heard about that in this gun.
Buy what you feel you can shoot safely. Really most cheap Hollow point .22 is nothing more than a small indention in the end of the bullet that has no effect on anything except feeding imo.

 

[mikehoncho]

based on the OOB poll i wouldn't shoot winchester ammo at all. over 50% of OOBs in the poll were winchester ammo. RGBs were second.

wally world federal value packs. cheapest i can find at less than $.03/round and they work. i picked up another 3500 federals at walmart today. it's gonna take forever to shoot what i've got stockpiled now but i'm willing to work at it.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

are the cci blazers good?

I was at the range today.... at 13.5k with Fed Bulk Pack.

Anyway... a guy was there with new 15-22-- threaded barrel. He was shooting CCI blazer without any problems. He went thru a full 500 box (50 X 10). Just a couple mag snags.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

it's gonna take forever to shoot what i've got stockpiled now but i'm willing to work at it.

Hahahahaha... yeah sure. "Forever" passes real quick with a 15-22. I know this.
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[scaredstr8]

the primer strike issue i will have to look at next time i go to the range. I will keep you posted.

 

[DasFriek]

the primer strike issue i will have to look at next time i go to the range. I will keep you posted.

That there can be a mechanical issue thats non ammo related.
I dont think ive heard of it happening on this gun, And generally the hammer hots the firing pin so hard with its squarish edges it can and has punctured the rear of cases.

But there is always a first for everything.
Next range visit do a few things.

1. If you have a failure to fire, extract the cartridge and put it in a sandwich baggy for pics later.
2. Inspect your barrel at that time and put a cleaning rod with no cleaning brush on it and push it threw the bore starting at the end of the gun pushing the bullet if one is present into the empty chamber.
Put that in the same bag as the case also. Dump any unburned power on the grass if possible.
3. Always be sure there are NO bullets left in the bore before firing another round. Most guns will explode, But a .22 most likley wont but it could damage it beyond usable if your not careful. It possibly could cause a round to fire out of battery if it wont push fully into the chamber due to a previously stuck bullet.

That should help identify whats going on.
If its ammo, Then its an easy fix.
If its weak primer strikes its a quick trip too S&W with shipping paid by them and you will be good to go within 2 weeks.

 

[BELT_FED]

go to wall mart buy the 550 rd bulk pack of fed. ammo and dont look back...

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

go to wall mart buy the 550 rd bulk pack of fed. ammo and dont look back...

Yup....

Cheapest + Cycles well = Best Ammo, IMO.

 

[~tc~]

But there is always a first for everything.
Next range visit do a few things.

1. If you have a failure to fire, extract the cartridge and put it in a sandwich baggy for pics later.
2. Inspect your barrel at that time and put a cleaning rod with no cleaning brush on it and push it threw the bore starting at the end of the gun pushing the bullet if one is present into the empty chamber.
Put that in the same bag as the case also. Dump any unburned power on the grass if possible.

Both of these sound unsafe to me. At the minimum, you need to wait several seconds with the barrel pointed down range before opening the bolt.

 

[DasFriek]

Both of these sound unsafe to me. At the minimum, you need to wait several seconds with the barrel pointed down range before opening the bolt.

Oh come on, I didn't say it was a race.
I know most people take around 5-10 seconds when they have a dud before they extract it when they are just plinking and know the gun is experiencing issues.
The other is just common sense, I didn't say point it at the RO and ask him to look down the barrel and see if there is a round stuck at the bottom.

Instead of criticizing me, Why don't you come up with a plan on what he should do on his next trip to the range.

I also agree Federal 550 bulk packs are great, But he needs to find out if he having an ammo issue or mechanical issue first. Im leaning towards ammo, But guessing isn't as good as actual proof.

Lite primer strikes is almost an impossibility without an pretty big issue going on as the hammer hits the firing pin with way more force than whats needed.

 

[Temporaryscars]

I shot about 350 rounds of blazer when I first got my rifle and they worked just fine, but they shot dirty. I guess if you can't get your hands on some federal, blazer is a nice alternative.