RE: The marines who pee pee'd on the corpses

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RE: The marines who pee pee'd on the corpses

bad taste and not very decent at all and I don't condone it one bit. But what would cover this in the UCMJ? I hope they don't court marshall these men, but they ought to at least get a Captian's Mast for aggravated stupid.
 
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Biggest problem is that they have created a recruiting video for every terrorist organization on the face of the earth.
 
Couldn't say about the UCMJ bit, but have to agree that sort of thing will work out to be a terrible disservice to the good guys. We don't know the whole story behind that incident, I'm sure, but whatever it is, I wish what little we know hadn't made its way to the electronic media.
 
Was it stupid? Yes. Even stupider to record it? Yes. Is it the stupidest thing a Marine has ever done? Not even close. Right now it isn't a court martial that's going to be their problem. It's the court of public opinion. The media will crucify these guys, and if they have to be "made an example of" don't think for a second they won't be thrown to the wolves so someone higher up the chain can be seen to be "doing something about it".
 
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There's somethiing upside down in this story when it's worse to pee on'em than to kill'em.
 
It they were going to do anything to the bodies they should have wrapped them in fresh pig skins.
 
Here we go again. IMHO only guilty of stupidity. All those who feign shock, disgust or revulsion are either naive or are playing the CYA game. Those involved, their immediate NCO and the jr.Officer responsible for them will pay the price to satisfy the hypocrites.
 
The proliferation of digital recording devices has hit the "Stupid" button in many peoples' psyches. If-empasis on "If"-this video is true and those responsible can be identified-they should be made an example of. Yes, this is a good recruiting tool for terrorists just as the Abu Ghraib scandal was for Al Qaeda-and MyLai was for VC.
 
How many times have we seen footage of dead, mutilated Americans being dragged through streets and fields like garbage?!!

I sure hope the guys that got Bin Laden did the same damn thing!!!!
 
I agree it was idiotic to RECORD what they did.

But I'm far more annoyed at how the mainstream press is handling this than anything else. The Taliban have used knives to SLOWLY cut the head off of dozens of people and posted those killings online.

Where was all the Worldwide outrage last time they hacked off a head and posted it online?

FN in MT
 
I disagree with the recruiting video idea. They already hate us simply for who we are and what we stand for.

This will simply make them a little more mad at us. That's all.

If you haven't been in combat, you have no business passing judgement on these men. War is hell. People react in different ways. Since we weren't there, we can only speculate.
 
I like to quote the line from the movie "The Lion in the Desert" about the Arab leader Omar Mukhtar fighting the Italians in Libya 1911-1931. When they capture some Italians one of the younger men says they should mistreat them but Omar Mukhtar forbids it and says they will be treated properly and returned unharmed. When the younger man says:
"But they do it to us!"
Omar Mukhtar says:
"They are not our teachers!"
Osama bin Laden's corpse was properly autopsied, the death certficate properly filled out, then the corpse was treated in the proper Muslim fashion and he received a correct Muslim funeral. In 1974 the Glomar Explorer raised part of the wreckage of the Soviet sub K-129. The remains of the crew were properly identified, their personal effects inventoried, their death certficates filled out. Then their caskets were covered with the Soviet Naval Ensign, their funeral service was conducted by a Russian Orthodox priest, later we gave the film to the Russians. That is the difference between them and us.
 
Ah, yes. Well folks, out there at the pointy end of the spear, boys will be boys. Those who haven't ived on that ragged edge will never undestand. I'm just glad they didn't have all those recordy devices out in the paddies in VietNam!!
 
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I like to quote the line from the movie "The Lion in the Desert" about the Arab leader Omar Mukhtar fighting the Italians in Libya 1911-1931. When they capture some Italians one of the younger men says they should mistreat them but Omar Mukhtar forbids it and says they will be treated properly and returned unharmed. When the younger man says:
"But they do it to us!"
Omar Mukhtar says:
"They are not our teachers!"
Osama bin Laden's corpse was properly autopsied, the death certficate properly filled out, then the corpse was treated in the proper Muslim fashion and he received a correct Muslim funeral. In 1974 the Glomar Explorer raised part of the wreckage of the Soviet sub K-129. The remains of the crew were properly identified, their personal effects inventoried, their death certficates filled out. Then their caskets were covered with the Soviet Naval Ensign, their funeral service was conducted by a Russian Orthodox priest, later we gave the film to the Russians. That is the difference between them and us.
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I understand and agree. However, American miltary men/women have crossed the line MANY times never to be caught. The only difference here is the young men were stupid enough to get caught.

If I was there with them, and I was scared and mad at the same time while engaged in a firefight with these dead men, I may have pissed on them too!

Is it right? No. But sometimes these things happen in war. Atrocities like collateral damage happen.

And IMHO, you can't compare Osama and the guys in the sub with this situation. Osama didn't have a chance to fight back and the guys in the sub were long since dead. No heated battle. No adrenalin. No fear.
 
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I was watching the news and heard the comment that the rule they broke was taking pictures of enemy casualties. As others have commented the stupid thing they did was letting their video get outside of their control.Too bad some careers will be ruined.
 
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