Recent Model 1905 Purchase

Jerry_B

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My dad recently came on to this, what I believe is a Model 1905. SN 240xxx. Looks to be a carried often, shot little 38 S&W Special. He isn’t a gun guy, called me and I told him to buy it.
Any help identifying it would be much appreciated.
 

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First, do NOT use Plus P ammo in that old gun. I think it'll be okay with std. velocity ammo and mid-range wadcutter loads.

The gun is a Military & Police, model of 1905, to distinguish it from the round butt version, Model of 1902. You probably have a Third or Fourth Model of 1905. The serial number will tell that difference.

From 1902 to 1915, as various small internal mods occurred, the model varied, as the gun evolved. You want the Fourth model, which remained the same until 1948, although WW II military examples, called Victory Model, had dull gray finishes. Some here say the Fourth Model ended in 1940-41, but apart from finish, only one change occurred prior to 1948.That was in Dec., 1944, when a new internal safety bar was added. A sailor dropped his Victory Model on a ship deck, and the gun fired, killing the man. The Navy wanted that problem fixed, and it was. Should have been done a generation before!

The gold grip medallions suggest manufacture during or before WW I! Cylinders weren't yet heat treated. I think that happened about 1919-1920. A specialist collector here can even give you the serial number when that change occurred. It was well beyond 316,000, but under 317,000.

I don't know what your dad paid, but as an old gun with nostalgic interest, it's sound. You can even use the modest loads cited. Condition looks pretty good, although not so pristine as to excite a collector. I guess he didn't get the original box? Buyers usually threw boxes away, but they interest collectors, a lot.

Stand by. Someone will tell you more, based on exact serial number. You need to post the entire number.

What was the price? If over $250, probably too much. This is a very common S&W, one of their iconic models.As a nostalgic gun, I'd like to have one. For a modern general service and defense gun, I'd buy a much later one, Model 10 or better, Model 64, which is stainless.
 
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SN 240xxx would make a 1915 shipping date most probable. The closest SN on my list to it is 2387xx which shipped in 3/15. You will have no difficulties in shooting any standard velocity .38 Special ammo in it. I also own a Target Model variation about 2000 numbers earlier than yours.
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Thanks for the information. He paid $175.

If I had the loose money, I'd consider that a good deal. Most of those aren't in as good a condition as yours is.

I think Buffalo Bore ammo with the unique full power wadcutter load would make this a quite effective defense gun, equal to killing coyotes or rabid foxes, etc. Velocity is about 100 FPS faster than mid-range wadcutter loads, at least on par with std. velocity ammo, but a more effective bullet shape.
 
Thanks for the information. He paid $175.

That is a screaming good deal for an all-original gun of that vintage in this nice condition. That price could likely be doubled.

The 240xxx serial makes this a very late Third Change from 1915; the Fourth occurred that year at 241704.

There seems to be just some holster wear on the barrel and cylinder. Check for a penciled serial on the right grip panel back.
 
Revolver appears to be in great shape. Heck of a price for it.

I show s/n 2460xx shipping in 12/15 and my 3rd change (2169xx) shipped 10/14. It still shoots just fine.
 

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Very Nice Jerry B. I'd be happy with that gun especially at that price. It's really nice looking.
 
Thanks. Let me say how much I appreciate the knowledge of this forum. I have several Smith’s, mostly modern, and have read a lot of informational posts without ever thinking of joining. Glad I made the decision to finally join up.
 
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