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Is there a difference in felt recoil with a revolver vs pistol in 45acp. thinking about getting a 625. I have a X-D in the 45acp.
 
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Is there a difference in felt recoil with a revolver vs pistol in 45acp. thinking about getting a 625. I have a X-D in the 45acp.
 
The revolver tends to roll more in your hand while the pistol pushes straight back. It's kinda hard to describe but depending on the weight of the guns the felt recoil on the revolver is less.
 
It is a bit far fetched to put 45 ACP and recoil in the same sentence. Some top level IPSC/USPSA competitors may want to see less recoil to shave that last 1/100 second off their splits, though.
 
Yes, there is a difference. Typically a revolver in .45ACP will have more felt recoil. This is mainly due to the fact of not having a slide like on a semi-auto which counteracts some of the recoil. That being said, the recoil from a 625 is neither punishing nor painful and is easily controllable. The recoil impulse is not like a .357Mag which to me is a very short, violent crack/jolt. The recoil from a 625 is a longer more solid impulse. Even in a scandium/aluminum frame 325PD (.45ACP) the recoil is quite manageable. Definitely, get the 625. You will LOVE it! And they are extremely accurate.
 
Maybe a 45 Colt revolver offers a good comparison. My friend shot my Model 25 45 Colt and described the recoil: "In the beginning the recoil feels like a magnum, but it never builds up."
 
Although physics can't be fooled, hands can.

To me, revolvers recoil less; I don't know why, maybe the impulse of the slide flinging around up there doesn't feel as good to me as "one-shot" and it's over.

For me, I notice the same thing with shotguns. It's definitely true that gas operated shotguns have less felt recoil, but I'd rather feel the recoil from a double for the same reason as above.

I have two full-sized Colt 1911's, and a 1955 S&W - I like shooting the revolver better.

However it works for you, the 625 should be a great gun for you.
 
I notice the recoil in my 325PD more than my 1911, but it weighs half as much and does not have the action of the slide absorbing some of the felt recoil. Neither is unpleasant to shoot. And after the first few few rounds through the 325 I haven't noticed the recoil. Shoot a couple full power 357 magnum loads in a scandium J frame and the 625 will feel like a 22LR.
 
If you compare the two platforms, you'll quickly see the bore centerline to grip are radically different. With the N frame revolver being a much higher bore to grip axis. The further apart the two lines are, the more "roll" one can expect. The recoil energy is being used up somewhat operating the action on the auto loader. The wheel gun has the energy going straight into the frame at the recoil shield. All that said, the .45 ACP is a low pressure round and unless being fired out of one of the anorexic weight revolvers, it's actually a pretty tame round?
JOMO?
 
Originally posted by co-4:
Is there a difference in felt recoil with a revolver vs pistol in 45acp. thinking about getting a 625. I have a X-D in the 45acp.
The auto's slide/barrel assembly acts a recoil "absorber" which reduces peak recoil impuls and spreads the total recoil energy out over a longer time as the slide moves against the recoil spring.

In short: (assuming comparable weight guns) a revolver shooting the same round as an auto will have a shorter duration but higher peak recoil impulse. It will therefore have more muzzle rise.

It is also true that the FELT recoil drops significantly if the bore axis is moved lower since that reduces the length of the lever that the recoil force has to twist your wrist. That's why "gripping high" will reduce PERCEIVED recoil.
 
I have an M&P40c that is a little over 20ozs. I also have a 610 4" that is a little over 40 ozs. I shoot reloads in both. 40S&W 180gr lead at 970 fps crono checked. I shoot several hundred rounds a week with both guns. The 610 has a lot more felt recoil to me. The small and light M&P40c is a pussycat to shoot and control. The velosity out of the 40c is about 950 fps out of the short barrel. I believe the reason they feel so different is design, and the fact that I have some carpal tunnel (may not be spelled correctly) in my right hand that gives me some pain with the 610. I use a pair of bicycle gloves that does away with the pain. I don't need the gloves with the M&P40c. I shoot the 610 with my left hand a lot. It works better and I can hit better with the left. I enjoy the 610 more just for the mechanics of it. I would guess the 45acp would recoil about the same as my 40S&W loads. Not a problem at all. I am having fun with these guns.
Phil
 
For me it's not so much the amount of recoil but what the gun does in reaction to it. I find it much easier to keep a 625 on target after a discharge than a 1911. The 625 seems barely to move after the shot. The recoil, such as it is (and it isn't much), is transmitted straight back into my hand, wrist and arm. By contrast although recoil from a 1911 is not unpleasant, the muzzle of the gun rises significantly after each round and the gun also twists in my hands.
 
As stated before I have an M&P40c and a 610 that I shoot 40S&W in both. I have also owned 5 1911's of several brands. The last was a Colt Gold Cup that I modified and used in ISPC matches in the 80's. I never liked the recoil of the 1911's. I lived with it and shot them all ok. Every type gun is different in that respect. The N frame Smith to me is much better to shoot than a 1911 style gun. I had a Dan Wesson in 44M that I used in several types of compition. It wasn't much different than the Smiths, but was heavy and recoil was not an issue. I have a Ruger Blackhawk in .45 colt. The recoil is not bad but it whips and rotates and that makes it les controlable for me. I haven't tried it with the bicycle gloves yet, maybe they will help. I still shoot it with out letting recoil dictate my activities too much. I can't ignore it, I just live with it and deal with it.
Phil
 
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