Recommended 357 load for 2.5" 19 snubbie?

[casingpoint]

Don't look at the size of the bullet, look at the size of the muzzle energy

Pretty good argument with respect to the .327 MAGNUM.

 

[flop-shank]

Bingo!!!! And I'm one of those who thinks the .327 is a great idea.

There is a trinity of asskickage, weight, velocity and bullet design. They must work in harmony.

 

[casingpoint]

They must work in harmony

Yes. But, is that accomplished one gun for each of the three different rounds, or two of each round in the same cylinder? Sort of like trying to decide between the Dixie Chicks and SHeDAISY...

 

[marvin knox]

Originally posted by casingpoint:

Don't look at the size of the bullet, look at the size of the muzzle energy

Pretty good argument with respect to the .327 MAGNUM.

I totally disagree! The .327 magnum is a bad answer to a nonexistent problem.

Lots of .38 +p's give the FBI minimum penetration and then some. Virtually every .357 mag does (obviously). That includes even the weakest loaded .357 ammo like the Speer SB, Remington GS, and Corbon DPX.

All of them from .38 Speer SB on up through those rounds named do so with LESS recoil to the shooter than the .327 mag. stuff. They all reach the 12" minimum with a larger permenent wound chanel by far than the .32 caliber stuff by a wide margin (around .65" mushroom with good hollow points).

Super paper "energy" like touted for the .327 magnum does one of two things. It either causes overpenetration or it causes a larger TEMPORARY wound chanel. Neither of these contributes to the stopping power of the round. In the case of overpenetration, it's actually detramental.

12" ,+ a little more perhaps, of penetration with the largest permenent wound chanel possible is the name of the game. .38spl. and low power .357 magnums do that with less recoil and a lot less noise than the .327 magnum round - not to mention ammo costs.

It's a "no-brainer"!

Gunwriters who tout the new .327 magnum do so by comparing it's paper energy with low power .357 diameter ammo and it's recoil with heavy .357 magnum ammo. Most dishonest IMHO!

 

[flop-shank]

I'll politely disagree with your very good argument, Marvin. I believe that energy plays a role in stopping power. The .327 mimics the old, and very successful, 9mm 115 gr. +P+ ballisticaly, but with a little more penetration, which I think is good. Whether the extra asswhippage, plus one shot, warrants a new cartridge is IMO a tennable argument. I think a .327, with good 125 gr. .357 style secondary fragmentation, would be the baddest little dude on the block.