Red Dot magnifier.

[DOGBONE1]

Want to add a magnifier for my red dot, any suggestions under $100.00?


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[shottist]

For what its worth, I have tried this several times and it simply has not worked for me. YMMV

 

[WVSig]

At $100 no. I cannot recommend one. The Vortex VMX-3T Magnifier with Flip Mount was recently on sale for $138 but is back up to $168 on Amazon.

At the $100 level the glass will be garbage IMHO. Even the Vortex is a huge compromise vs others like Aimpoint and even Eotech.

I personally am not a fan of magnifiers but I under stand that people like them.

 

[DOGBONE1]

At $100 no. I cannot recommend one. The Vortex VMX-3T Magnifier with Flip Mount was recently on sale for $138 but is back up to $168 on Amazon.



At the $100 level the glass will be garbage IMHO. Even the Vortex is a huge compromise vs others like Aimpoint and even Eotech.



I personally am not a fan of magnifiers but I under stand that people like them.

The range we go to only let's you set up for an AR at 25 yards, and takes breaks every 20 minutes so I want to be able to see my accuracy quicker. That's all.


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[WVSig]

The range we go to only let's you set up for an AR at 25 yards, and takes breaks every 20 minutes so I want to be able to see my accuracy quicker. That's all.


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I guess I am missing something. At 25 yards I see no need for magnification of any kind. Shooting an AR15 at that range you should be able to see the target and place the dot where you want it to go taking into account what zero you are using and get solid groups.

I am not sure what "I want to be able to see my accuracy quicker. That's all." means? Are you trying to use the flip magnifier as some sort of spotting scope?

I am confused.

 

[MichiganScott]

The range we go to only let's you set up for an AR at 25 yards, and takes breaks every 20 minutes so I want to be able to see my accuracy quicker. That's all.


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Save your money put in toward a good spotting scope, and I'm not talking a Sportsman's Guide special. You will have it and use it long after your current AR has been sold.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Get a cheap monocular or binoculars.

If you are determined to strap a sub $100 magnifier on your rifle Primary arms has 3x and 6x in that price range. My guess is that it'll soon get tossed in the AR parts box.

 

[LAA]

I have the Burris & Vortex 3X magnifiers in the $170- $200 range. They do the job, and I doubt I'll go any higher price wise. Since they do flip out of the way, they're simple to use when wanted. I prefer them at 100 yrds. plus. The Vortex is with an Aimpoint Pro red dot.

 

[Moe Mentum]

Use the red dot as is, or get a scope.

 

[CBStuard]

I have a couple of the Primary Arms 3X magnifiers. They seem to work OK but, for me, they have a shortcoming. I have a dot on my AR and my wife has 1-4 scope on hers. I don't really like the scope. One has to be too perfect w/ one's eye position for a scope to work well where it doesn't matter w/ a dot. Just the nature of the equipment. When I add the 3X to the dot, there I am back w/ needing a near perfect eye position. If you try the PA magnifier, get the standard mount and take a wrench w/ you. Their QR mount isn't to sturdy.

 

[cyphertext]

I have a couple of the Primary Arms 3X magnifiers. They seem to work OK but, for me, they have a shortcoming. I have a dot on my AR and my wife has 1-4 scope on hers. I don't really like the scope. One has to be too perfect w/ one's eye position for a scope to work well where it doesn't matter w/ a dot. Just the nature of the equipment. When I add the 3X to the dot, there I am back w/ needing a near perfect eye position. If you try the PA magnifier, get the standard mount and take a wrench w/ you. Their QR mount isn't to sturdy.

Exactly... The red dot + magnifier combo is a compromise solution at best. If you want fast target acquisition, get a red dot. If you want magnification, get a scope.

 

[StakeOut]

I bought a previously owned Burris Trippler for a bit more than the $100 limit to pair with a used Burris AR-F3 I already had .

If you don't need NIB then used is the way to go.Keep checking the usual suspects for previously owned.

 

[Brian in Oregon]

Most magnifiers don't work for me because there is no adjustable ocular on them. As a result they are out of focus and blurry. (I'm badly farsighted.)

Another issue is that these allow multiple sources of light to hit the primary optics surfaces. By that I mean not only does sunlight hit the red dot's front lens, it also hits the magnifiers front lens. Some red dots have lens shades, but I've never seen one except on a discontinued EOTech 4x unit.

Since this is basically reinventing a 1x-3x illuminated reticle scope, why not get a 1-4x (or 2-7x, etc.) illuminated reticle scope in the first place?

 

[DOGBONE1]

Thanks for all the advice. I apologize if my post has irritated some, by the responses I am apparently an idiot, maybe, but coming to a forum for "help" was I guess not the right thing to do. I didn't read the fine print about only professionals being able to post here and ask stupid questions! I'm sorry I took apace from another who probably had a smarter question to ask. out!


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[MichiganScott]

Thanks for all the advice. I apologize if my post has irritated some, by the responses I am apparently an idiot, maybe, but coming to a forum for "help" was I guess not the right thing to do. I didn't read the fine print about only professionals being able to post here and ask stupid questions! I'm sorry I took apace from another who probably had a smarter question to ask. out!
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Kinda thin skinned, are we? I just re-read the whole thread and don't see single post belittling you. They all add up to the fact that you can't get a decent magnifier for less than $100, you don't need one for precision at 25 yards, a magnifier makes a poor substitute for a scope, and most of us have little use for magnifiers and prefer either a bare red dot or scope.

FWIW, ChattanoogaPhil is a mod on this forum and they do not allow personal attacks on other posters. I hope you stick around. Even those of us that have spent decades with AR's still learn something new on occasion.

 

[Pro2nd]

Thanks for all the advice. I apologize if my post has irritated some, by the responses I am apparently an idiot, maybe, but coming to a forum for "help" was I guess not the right thing to do. I didn't read the fine print about only professionals being able to post here and ask stupid questions! I'm sorry I took apace from another who probably had a smarter question to ask. out!


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PIFFT! this is sophisticated compared to some of the questions I have ask! LOL..


Stick around man..

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Relax, no one is insulting anyone. To the contrary, I think folks here have offered some good insight to consider. Most of it is related to the mistakes (learning experiences ) they made themselves or that of others they know.

Folks understand the dizzying array of choices available with the AR platform and that it can be overwhelming. We all been there.

 

[tbgunner88]

Relax, no one is insulting anyone. To the contrary, I think folks here have offered some good insight to consider. Most of it is related to the mistakes (learning experiences ) they made themselves or that of others they know.

Folks understand the dizzying array of choices available with the AR platform and that it can be overwhelming. We all been there.

Exactly, some money and aggravation could be saved by following the advice given in this thread.

 

[LostintheOzone]

I don't own an AR but I shoot every week with a guy that does. I've shot his AR with an Eotech G33 magnifier. My impression is it works but that's a lot of money and gear hanging on an AR. He has more money in his sight than his rifle. For the 1K he put into his sight he could have purchased a top of the line 1-4 power scope. He's now looking at a 2K rifle and he won't be putting a holographic site on it. After seeing the difference in a 1 moa group using my rifle with a telescopic sight he's convinced holographic with a magnifier isn't what he wants for the range.

I understand that holographic is great for target acquisition and works for combat situations but it isn't a precision sight. You want a telescopic sight for that. Snipers don't use holographic sights.

I'm not dissing your choice, just laying out what I've seen when a new shooter gets his information from a sales guy.

 

[arnoob]

I bought a Vortex flip-to-side magnifier, it's a really nice bit of kit, well built and very clear glass, it looks great in my parts box.