I never felt the need to use any laser or optical sights on an up close and personal SD handgun. At 5 yards or less, I don't really see the need. I do see the liability (breakage, dead battery, knocked out of alignment, special holsters, more bulk and weight on the handgun, etc) as a hinderance and not an asset. OK - I know many on this thread about a red dot sight will think I am off base here and that's expected - but please think about what I have said here...... Is the red dot sight truly needed for an up close and personal SD handgun? YMMV