Registered Magnum reg#1169

I don't know about apples, but I do know something about the registered
magnum program. Not everything, but something !

Whether or not the registered magnum card was returned, has no bearing on
the guns status as a registered magnum. And, the presence of a registration
number does not insure that the gun was produced while the program was still
active.

At some point during the the productions of these pre-WW2 .357's, the factory
cancelled the registered magnum program. One aspect of the program was
the registration/certificate procedure, in which the returning of the
registration card caused a registration certificate to be issued, and sent
to the registered owner. The cancelling of the program terminated this
procedure, and anything manufactured after that point, is considered to be
a non-registered magnum. There were some frames that already had a registration
number stamped in them, but were not used until after the program was cancelled.
These guns were not part of the registering program, and hence are not
registered magnums; they are non-registered magnums.

The confusing segment are those guns, made during the active existence of
the registereing program, but were not eligible for registration, for possibly
several reasons. The most-talked about reason is that registration cards were
not sent with the guns. Of course, the underlying question is - why were the
cards not sent ? Its possible that a special price was offered, or negotiated,
for those guns, and registration was not part of the deal. Or, in the case of
the KCPD guns, it's possible that the program was effectively cancelled during
the production of that large batch of guns.

I have owned two KCPD guns from
the same 450 gun shipment, on the same date. My earlier one lettered as
non-registered ; one from last year lettered as a registered magnum. Both had
registration numbers stamped in the crane area. Presumably, Roy had a change
of heart somewhere between the first letter, and the second one ! Clearly,
there is some confusion surrounding the ordering of the KCPD guns, and perhaps
other large orders as well. Some day, there may be an explanation.

Later, Mike Priwer
 
I have a rather large RM picture file that I have accumulated over the last three years and I noticed the pattern that all of the early magnums have the flat sided rib and the later guns have the rib with the groove.

Of the two Magnums I have, REG1872 which was shipped in January 1937 has its original barrel with a flat sided rib. REG2972 was shipped in September 1937 has a grooved rib. It should be mentioned that I believe that the barrel that 2972 now has was installed in June 1943 when it went in for some type of work. But I can't say for sure; maybe the original was cut down from 6" to 5". I find the later less likely though as the other New Hampshire state guns have the flat sided rib.

In looking through my RM picture file I have noticed that the groove depth varies from very shallow to the depth seen on REG2972. So my hypothesis is that over time either intentionally or not the groove became deeper.

I have pictures of both REG4953 as well as 5322 and it appears that they both have the groove sided ribs. REG4002 now wears a 7" barrel that was installed in 1949 if I recall and it has the grooved sided barrel. To me this is a pattern.

Jared
 
Jared,
You are, indeed, on to something.
I just checked the safe, and find the following:
Dec., 1935.....slab-sided rib
Dec., 1936...slab-sided rib
Jan., 1937(2)..slab-sided ribs
March, 1938...grooved rib.
AHA!
Don
 
Jared

I checked my registered magnums. All the ones in the 58xxx serial
number range have the grove-sided barrel - the earlier ones are all
flat sided. It looks to me as though there was a change in the
barrel profile around 58000, or so.

Later, Mike Priwer
 
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