Remembering an American Hero: Ira Hayes

[Onomea]

This post is in honor of Ira Hayes, a great American:



Johnny Cash explains in song his story, and why we honor him in our memories: https://youtu.be/itQg-SUQDAE?si=nEQQIwTG8z0rNVkK

 

[CalifEd]

I heard on the radio this morning that many of the military history web sites have removed articles that mention the Code Talkers and other American Indians such as War Chief Joseph Medicine Crow, a real Crow W Chief and World War II, hero because some ______ bureaucrat thinks mentioning these minorities has something to do with the DEI pandemic.

This was from The Guardian

Articles about Native American code talkers removed from military websites | US military | The Guardian

 

[Rudi]

I liked it better when all heroes were heroes.

 

[lihpster]

For those who want to know more about Joseph Medicine Crow, search youtube for The Fat Electrician. The title of the video is The Last War Chief, Joe Medicine Crow. Can't link due to adult language. You've been warned.
The Fat Electrician is a pretty good storyteller and he usually picks some pretty interesting things to talk about. Lots of things on there about heroes I knew nothing about before watching his videos. He's done videos on Eugene Bullard, Virginia Hall, Jake "McNasty' McNiece, Sir Douglas Bader as well as videos on strange proposals for weapons, like the batbombs and the chicken powered nuclear land mine. Very interesting if you're into military history. He's well worth checking out.

 

[oldbrownhat]

I heard on the radio this morning that many of the military history web sites have removed articles that mention the Code Talkers and other American Indians such as War Chief Joseph Medicine Crow, a real Crow W Chief and World War II, hero because some ______ bureaucrat thinks mentioning these minorities has something to do with the DEI pandemic.

This was from The Guardian

Articles about Native American code talkers removed from military websites | US military | The Guardian

..."Among those pages was one celebrating Ira Hayes, one of the marines memorably pictured raising the American flag at Iwo Jima in 1945, according to the Washington Post. Hayes, a Native American, was praised in the page as an example of the “contributions and sacrifices Native Americans have made to the United States, not just in the military, but in all walks of life”...
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Ye gods.... Otherwise I am left speechless

 

[SMSgt]

The idiot pendulum swings both directions.

 

[Rudi]

The story of Joe Medicine Crow is fantastic.

 

[charlie sherrill]

I heard on the radio this morning that many of the military history web sites have removed articles that mention the Code Talkers and other American Indians such as War Chief Joseph Medicine Crow, a real Crow W Chief and World War II, hero because some ______ bureaucrat thinks mentioning these minorities has something to do with the DEI pandemic.

This was from The Guardian

Articles about Native American code talkers removed from military websites | US military | The Guardian

Same with the 442nd, an all Japanese American division that trained here at nearby Camp Shelby,Ms. during WWII. They were one of the most highly decorated divisions in the war.

 

[charlie sherrill]

This has nothing to do with DEI. This is somebody,somewhere, trying to make it look like DEI caused this and therefore make bad orange man look even worse.

 

[Onomea]

Same with the 442nd, an all Japanese American division that trained here at nearby Camp Shelby,Ms. during WWII. They were one of the most highly decorated divisions in the war.

...Nearly a century later, "the "Remember Pearl Harbor" 100th Infantry Battalion, and the "Go For Broke" 442d Regimental Combat Team is still the most decorated unit in U.S. military history. Members of this World War II unit earned over 18,000 individual decorations including over 4,000 Purple Hearts, and 21 Medals of Honor. The Combat Team earned five Presidential Citations in 20 days of Rhineland fighting, the only military unit ever to claim that achievement. General of the Army George C. Marshall praised the team saying, "they were superb: the men of the 100/442d... showed rare courage and tremendous fighting spirit... everybody wanted them." General Mark W. Clark (Fifth Army) said, "these are some the best... fighters in the U.S. Army. If you have more, send them over.""...

442nd Infantry Regiment (United States - Wikipedia)

 

[326MOD10]

I heard on the radio this morning that many of the military history web sites have removed articles that mention the Code Talkers and other American Indians such as War Chief Joseph Medicine Crow, a real Crow W Chief and World War II, hero because some ______ bureaucrat thinks mentioning these minorities has something to do with the DEI pandemic.

This was from The Guardian

Articles about Native American code talkers removed from military websites | US military | The Guardian

Just for clarification the article said the stories of these brave folks and others were removed from the DEFENSE DEPARTMENT website.

 

[rockquarry]

I read an Ira Hayes biography in the last year. Yes, he was certainly a hero, but much of his life after WWII was an incredibly sad story.

 

[Buford57]

The article I read this morning said that an algorithm is being used to remove any webpages honoring anyone who is identified in the article by an "immutable characteristic" assuming they are being honored for something outside their control, i.e. race or sex.

Blame it on the equipment? GI/GO.

I think if they try to remove Ira from the Iwo Jima monument there will be a Marine or two staging a mostly peaceful protest.

 

[Buford57]

Never famous, but now a non-person.

Col. Ely S. Parker was US Grant's adjutant, drafted the terms of surrender at Appomattox and was later Indian Affairs Commissioner. He was also a Seneca sachem. Grant had to intervene after first the Governor of New York and then the Secretary of War disqualified him from enlisting due to his race. At the surrender Robert E. Lee shook his hand and said he was glad to see one "real American" present. Parker replied "We are all Americans".

We could all learn something from Col. Parker and General Lee.

 

[Rustyt1953]

Someone taught this kid well.

 

[Eric300]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itQg-SUQDAE[/ame]

 

[JeffKnox]

God Bless Him.

Don't fall for the **** about Hayes and others being removed from government websites. These are either instances of "Deep State" actors going overboard on the anti-DEI orders on purpose in an effort to stir up controversy, or like someone else suggested, it's an algorithm pulling down everything that might be undeserved, and whatever is worthwhile will be put back in after review.
But everyone get upset and blame Trump and Musk.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

I read an Ira Hayes biography in the last year. Yes, he was certainly a hero, but much of his life after WWII was an incredibly sad story.

Was that the one by William Bradford Huie?

 

[rockquarry]

Was that the one by William Bradford Huie?

I don't remember; I have the book somewhere but it isn't handy at the moment.