Remington vs Federal

[iflyfish]

Shot my Henry lever action for a while this afternoon, I first burned off some Remington bulk. Then I loaded Federal bulk. I noticed a slight difference in the amount of space they took up in the tube. The Remington Bulk are clearly shorter by a small amount. Could this be the cause of so many problems in the 15-22?

I tried several times at home with different rounds to make sure it was consistent. Photos are both 15 rounds.

FEDERAL BULK

REMINGTON BULK

 

[hittman77]

Can't say Remington is the source of your problems but......NO gun I have likes Remington. I avoid Remington 22 ammo at all costs.

 

[Steel15-22]

Remington

Remington blew out the extractor in my 15-22.
Gun problem?
Ammo problem?
I will not use anymore to find out.
They did not work very well in my other 22s either.

 

[Thomas_H]

Remington GB run like crap (FTFs, FTEs) in my :
GSG-5
Browning Buckmark
Browning Challenger
Walther P-22
Ruger 10/22

The only gun I have that will eat Remington GB is my old Marlin model 60, and my Remington model 552 Speedmaster. But then again, they'll eat anything. I'm not even going to bother to try them in the M&P15-22.

Federal 40 gr solid and 36 grn HP run more or less flawless in all of the above.

I'm not sure if it's the shape of the GB bullet, or the fact that they seem to be over waxed. But they only seem to seem half way reliable in my tube fed rifles. I pretty much avoid

I prefer CCI Mini-mags above all.

 

[iflyfish]

They work good in my Henry's and 10-22. However, I'll never put them in my 15-22 after reading about all the problems.

 

[27 Beck]

Another dissatisfied Remington Golden Bullet user here. It seems like the bullet will wiggle in the case. A more than acceptable amout of them fail to go bang on the first hit. Most will go bang on the second hit, but not all of them. Accuracy with the ones that go bang is okay, probably as good as Federal Bulk.

I have used Remington reloading components for trap shooting for a lot of years. They always made good stuff. Primers, wads, and shot. I don't know what happened to their quality control when they make the GBs.

 

[BaitKiller]

Federal;Good
Remington;Not Good

Have hours upon hours of fun and reliable range time with Federal thru my 15-22.

Although, the Remington centerfire does ok in my pistols.

 

[Candyman]

Remington rimfire ammunition works well in a few 22's I have:
Remington M552 Speedmaster,
Remington M597 synthetic stock with Bushnell scope,
Henry lever action,
Henry pump action,
Ruger 10/22,
Glenfield M60 & M75 (same as Marlin basically),
Marlin M925 bolt action,
Marlin M60 & M60SB semi-auto, both tube fed.

GB work well in all those rifles.

All of my 22 revolvers eat Remington GB with NO issues.

These pistols will NOT use the GB properly:
Ruger MKII Competition Target 6.5 Stainless slab-side,
Ruger MKII 22/45 5.5 Bull barrel (bbl),
Ruger MKIII Target 22/45 5.5 Bull Barrel (bbl),
Ruger MKIII Target 5.5 Bull Barrel (bbl).

GB seem best for rifles & revolvers, but I will NOT even try them in my 15-22 after all the problems I've had with my other 22's.

 

[MrHowell]

Rem GBs

The only thing I will use the GBs in now is my Smith and High Standard Wheel guns I wont use it again in my 15-22 or any other semi-auto rifle or pistol. Even in the wheel guns although I have had no ftf I have had low and high compression shots with it that make you stop and make sure all is well with the weapon before continuing shooting.

 

[n3cal]

Remington has a Safety Recall on it's 17HMR ammo. It's not to be used in semi-auto firearms. I wonder if the 17 hmr supplier is the same supplier for .22lr? Could it be a simular issue?

 

[TSQUARED]

I have used the Remington Golden Bullet 22's in my Jarvis 22 conversion unit for the 1911. Aside from the ca. 1% or less ignition failures it functions reliably and is more accurate than a lot of bulk ammo.

 

[BobK]

CCI MiniMag .22's

For many years, Remington .22 ammo has been inconsistent, with many squib loads. Not just the cheap bulk loads, either. ALL of their .22's are much the same as the cheap stuff. I don't know why they haven't fixed the problem by now!!! EVERYBODY says it's junk.

Federal is better...but not the best. I've had a few squibs in every box.

I have always liked CCI MiniMags. They have never let me down, and always give consistent performance....no matter what rifle, revolver, or semi-auto I'm shooting it in. It will always feeds reliably in all my
semi-auto rifles and pistols, both solids and hollow points. It's worth the extra money it costs!!! Bob

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

For many years, Remington .22 ammo has been inconsistent, with many squib loads. Not just the cheap bulk loads, either. ALL of their .22's are much the same as the cheap stuff. I don't know why they haven't fixed the problem by now!!! EVERYBODY says it's junk.

Federal is better...but not the best. I've had a few squibs in every box.

Do you mean a round that fails to fire?

A "squib" refers to a bullet that becomes lodged in the barrel, usually caused by insufficient powder charge. Typically happens with individuals who reload their own centerfire ammo and they simply skip a powder charge. The primer alone can build enough pressure to discharge the bullet into the barrel where is becomes stuck. It's not all that common, but it happens. However, to have a few factory .22lr squibs per box would be the equivalent of winning the lottery a few times a week.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Put a couple hundred rounds of Fed AutoMatch through the 15-22 with no issues. I bought a few boxes of it at WallyWord a year or so ago but haven't seen any around since. As I remember, it was about the same price as the Fed Value 550, but the box is only 325. I was shooting steel today (ding ding) so I'm not sure how accurate it was. 200 wasn't enough to convince me that it works its way through the magazine better than Fed Value Pack, but I'm gonna stuff two boxes through it next weekend and see what happens.

 

[27 Beck]

Do you mean a round that fails to fire?

A "squib" refers to a bullet that becomes lodged in the barrel, usually caused by insufficient powder charge. Typically happens with individuals who reload their own centerfire ammo and they simply skip a powder charge. The primer alone can build enough pressure to discharge the bullet into the barrel where is becomes stuck. It's not all that common, but it happens. However, to have a few factory .22lr squibs per box would be the equivalent of winning the lottery a few times a week.

I think he is using the term squib to refer to a light report, vs bullet not exiting the barrel.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I think he is using the term squib to refer to a light report, vs bullet not exiting the barrel.

Light report?