Hair Trigger
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Starline makes great quality brass, I use it for my .41M and .45 Colt. You don't need to resize the new brass, but you may want to bell the mouth a little before seating the bullet.
Resizing new cases
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ArchAngelCD
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I have to whole heartedly agree, their 45 Colt brass is of very high quality as are most, if not all of their cartridge cases.
gregintenn
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I'll size and trim/chamfer new rifle cases. I've found Starline straightwalled handgun cases to be of such quality that sizing new brass is unnecessary. If a case mouth happens to be a bit dented in shipping, the expander ball should straighten it out.
In my opinion, Starline is a blessing to the reloading community. Great quality and customer service at a very competitive price.
In my opinion, Starline is a blessing to the reloading community. Great quality and customer service at a very competitive price.
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If you have your press and dies set up and all the components in the bench, why would you not resize new brass? I always resize new/new to me brass, one "extra" step means nothing and it also gives one a chance to inspect each case (nearly every time I pick up a case I give it a quick "look see").
FWIW; my brass doesn't ring, as I just flare the case mouth. (life long machinist/mechanic). I don't know where/when reloaders stopped flaring their brass and started "belling", but it seems to have caught on...
FWIW; my brass doesn't ring, as I just flare the case mouth. (life long machinist/mechanic). I don't know where/when reloaders stopped flaring their brass and started "belling", but it seems to have caught on...
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Hair Trigger
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I don't resize new brass because what's the point of working the brass when it isn't needed? That's at least one more time I get to use the brass in a reload. And "flare" or "bell mouth"....just a different term for the same thing.
When I get a package of new brass, I randomly check about a dozen cases out of a hundred for length, and case head diameter and case mouth diameter. If those random cases are within spec, the rest probably are as well. Even once-fired brass, if the primers are gone, have usually been sized, and get checked the same way. I only buy from a couple of different vendors and haven't been disappointed with out of spec cases yet.
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If it isn't needed, the brass will not be worked. One failure to chamber would be enough for me to take the time to resize.
I think that a slight bell and crimp are better on a revolver but some powders require a heavy crimp. If it reduces the number of times the brass is fired before tossing from 12 to 10 I am OK with that.
"Over working new brass"?. How many reloadings before failure for one additional resize? I rarely guess at anything or take anything for granted when reloading. Cartridge cases are mass (!) produced and not every piece is inspected 100% and is is normal for an OOPS! to sneak through. Although I can't remember a bad case from Starline, one pass through the sizing die does not "work" the metal and gives me one more look at the cases. Even on a single stage press, it ain't no big deal. But if you don't want to, don't. I prefer to...
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jimbo728
Member
My last new batch of Starline.44mag brass were hard to size
Had to lube all to size freely. Something was`nt right.
Jim
BillBro
Member
OP, did they list it as in stock when you ordered? I just placed an order too but it says backordered. Also states that website may not reflect actual current stock. I guess it changes so rapidly.
Scriv
Member
Sizing new cases
I have only recently begun to do this. Likely because when I started reloading all I had were once fired cases, so it was not an issue. Doesn't hurt with consistency, but the only real negative is if the seated bullet fails to have enough neck tension. Not so much an issue with 44 special as most times they are crimped, but if it was a 45 ACP for example the bullet could get pushed deeper during the loading (into the chamber) process if the bullet/case size relationship is sloppy.
I have only recently begun to do this. Likely because when I started reloading all I had were once fired cases, so it was not an issue. Doesn't hurt with consistency, but the only real negative is if the seated bullet fails to have enough neck tension. Not so much an issue with 44 special as most times they are crimped, but if it was a 45 ACP for example the bullet could get pushed deeper during the loading (into the chamber) process if the bullet/case size relationship is sloppy.
STORMINORMAN
Member
Having just reprocessed a lot of 1K 38 Special once-fired (supposedly?) Nickel-plated brass I have but three comments...
1). I was pleased to see the good overall condition of this brass: I only needed to cull out a half a dozen cases that were crushed, dented, etc. None had any neck splits.
2). Since they were advertised as being "triple-washed", I proceeded to resize them: primarily the sizing effort, for the most part, was very consistent and I just cleaned the die (a Hornady Custom Nitride) with a little Hornady One Shot every 250 cases, or so...
3). A thousand used primers is a lot: I SHOULD HAVE (Duh!) emptied the primer catch tube on the LEE Classic Single Stage a couple of times! As it was, I had spent primers dropping out on the floor when I finally removed it when I was done: what a mess!
Cheers!
P.S. Splitting these with a friend who just got a New Python: his 1st ever revolver!
1). I was pleased to see the good overall condition of this brass: I only needed to cull out a half a dozen cases that were crushed, dented, etc. None had any neck splits.
2). Since they were advertised as being "triple-washed", I proceeded to resize them: primarily the sizing effort, for the most part, was very consistent and I just cleaned the die (a Hornady Custom Nitride) with a little Hornady One Shot every 250 cases, or so...
3). A thousand used primers is a lot: I SHOULD HAVE (Duh!) emptied the primer catch tube on the LEE Classic Single Stage a couple of times! As it was, I had spent primers dropping out on the floor when I finally removed it when I was done: what a mess!
Cheers!
P.S. Splitting these with a friend who just got a New Python: his 1st ever revolver!
ironhead7544
Member
Stuff happens. Size them.
Baltimoreed11754
Member
Resize and reload as you would normally. Irons out any dents, makes them uniform and inspect them as you load them. Why handle brass any more than you have to. I don't 'process' brass other than to tumble and sort them after shooting a match or when my mty brass bag has enough to tumble. They get sorted into their own plastic containers [large mouth barbecue sauce jugs work great] and whenever I need to reload a particular caliber I crank them out by the 50 or 100.
I've never resized a new case in my 51 year handloading career! I do chamfer the inside/outside of the neck and expand the inside case neck before belling the case mouth to better accept cast bullets. Bottleneck cases I do the same thing except belling the necks unless I'm using cast bullets.
maxfam
Member
I was told many years ago, don't assume anything. Size and then trim to a uniform length. Chamfer and de burr, then load as normal using a single stage RCBS press.
Only if the new cases are out of Spec and will not chamber.......
a slight belling will round out most light "dings" with the case mouth.
I will always check to make sure my bullets don't fall through a new case
to see if the I/D is within specs.
If it does not stop, I have a lot of work ahead...................
a slight belling will round out most light "dings" with the case mouth.
I will always check to make sure my bullets don't fall through a new case
to see if the I/D is within specs.
If it does not stop, I have a lot of work ahead...................
