Retired cop arrested for shooting

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Well I sure hope he can afford to fork over a good portion of his retirement to 'Mr. Stick Fingers' since he actually (per the news report) grazed the guy's neck. I can't for the life of me think of when it's ever a good idea to deploy deadly force during the commission of a property crime. Maybe I'm wrong......
 
The situation was likely more complex than reported. But among the available scenarios, none comes to mind which looks good for this gentleman's actions.

The only certain fact seems to be that the shoplifter only got cited for misdemeanor theft. That indicates that circumstances will make it difficult for the ex-cop's lawyers to turn shooting at the car into self-defense when it comes to that.

And on a subjective side note, if as a retired officer you carry a gun and feel compelled to "un-retire" yourself in such a situation, you shouldn't walk around looking like you just woke up from a nap behind the dumpster. That tape is not going to be helpful.
 
When you are a retired LEO, as I am, always keep in mind that the weapon you carry is only to protect you and the people that are important to you. California is anti-gun and I am sure that belief is imbedded in the young officers they hire.
 
A relative....

A relative worked in a shoe store that was ROUTINELY (about twice a week) targeted by shoplifters working in groups and they KNEW that they would not be caught. I would have set up a machine gun nest but nobody wanted my advice.....for some reason.

Seriously though, this was bad. For the first thing, the cop knew himself that he was retired from the LA department, which screams CALIFORNIA! Did he think he was in Idaho?
 
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I think sometimes people who are carrying when a crime is committed get caught up in the wanting to do something to help and make bad decisions.Unfortunately this is probably going to turn out bad for the retired officer.At least he didn't actually kill the fleeing thief .Carrying a firearm is a serious thing you have to keep your head right at all times.
 
According to this article from the Los Angeles Daily News, he is 61, and retired from the Cypress Police Department in the mid-90's . . .

Hm. He is only 61, but he "retired" about 25 years ago?
 
Seriously though, this was bad. For the first thing, the cop knew himself that he was retired from the LA department, which screams CALIFORNIA! Did he think he was in Idaho?

Yep. If the stories my buddy tells me are half true, in Northern Idaho the DA would have organized a whip round to get the guy more practice ammo.
 
Hm. He is only 61, but he "retired" about 25 years ago?

That's not exactly uncommon. Plenty of guys retire at various "steps" in their pensions, and move on to second careers.

I will say, however, that this particular dude is a case study in the importance of one's appearance while CCWing.
 
Let's just say at one time stealing a man's horse was a hanging offense...
My Grandmother witnessed a horse thief hanging when she was a little kid in Wibaux, Montana. This was in the 1890s. Kids weren't supposed to be there but she and older sister went anyway. The memory bothered her her whole life.
 
Don'tcha just love stories like this? I know I do. I know it's terrible, but for some morbid reason, I just find it humorous when someone else's good sense goes out the window.:D

It reminds me of an incident several years ago in the town where we used to live.

Josh was a high school kid and my good buddy. He was a hard worker and went on a couple of pack trips with me. He liked working with the livestock, and like I said, a heckuva good worker.

Josh worked part time after school at our local feed store. One afternoon when Josh was manning the store by himself, some bozo walked in and started helping himself to a bunch of stuff without paying for it. Josh caught him, but the guy tried to make a break for it, taking all the items with him.

Josh wasn't very big, but he was wiry and tougher than wang leather. He took the guy down and started beating the livin' powahden out of him. When Josh finally let him up, the guy was able to drag himself to his car and drive away. Josh gathered up all of the stuff and restocked the shelves.

Josh didn't call the police and neither did the crook, fortunately.

Josh didn't tell the feed store owner about it, but one day as the owner was going through the security footage, he saw the whole scenario unfold right there on camera.

He called Josh in and told him that he appreciated his loyalty to the company, but next time, just get the license plate number and call the police.

Still, I'll bet that shoplifter will think twice next time he decides to shoplift. Likewise, I think the shoplifter in the OP's story will think twice about shoplifting after being shot in the neck. From what I understand, once you've been shot once, you aren't real keen about it happening again.

Bottom line, I still kinda like to see the bad guy get some sort of "come upance," even if it's done wrong.:D
 
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Too bad for the retired LEO. I do not know where that would be a legal shot. For the LEO's sake, I am glad that miscreant's injuries are not more serious.
 
Seems like even if the ex LEO had been active LEO it would be a bad shoot. A shoplifter running from the scene? Let's hope there's more to this story to exonerate the man, otherwise he should be in prison for a long time. At least the thief wasn't killed.

Something similar happened to the City councilman and store owner in Lakeland, Florida a few months ago. They are prosecuting him for the death of the shoplifter.
 
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