revolver timing tool

[HavocUSMC]

When I went through the M&P pistol course at S&W an instructor showed me a net little tool for cutting the ratchet for timing. It slipped into the trigger slot and had a ratchet arm attached that would cut the ratchet on the cylinder as you pulled the trigger. Can any one educate me on this.

 

[KAC]

The tool you saw was designed to make the initial cut on the ratchets. After using this tool a Barrett file is used to finish fitting the ratchets. If you don't have the tool you use the Barrett file from start to finish.

KAC

 

[robertrwalsh]

I also took a S&W factory armorers course. As far as I know those tools are custom built by S&W for factory initial cutting and are not sold. Maybe somebody makes them, but I don't know who it would be or what the market would be. Unless you have a revolver with a brand new never cut extractor, it wouldn't be much use. As part of the course we built revolvers from scratch. It was a blast.

 

[Wired]

I also took a S&W factory armorers course. As far as I know those tools are custom built by S&W for factory initial cutting and are not sold. Maybe somebody makes them, but I don't know who it would be or what the market would be. Unless you have a revolver with a brand new never cut extractor, it wouldn't be much use. As part of the course we built revolvers from scratch. It was a blast.

How cool! I would love to do that.

 

[PPCSHOOTER]

Aka "timing cutter hand" it was an extremly hardened hand that when pulled with several fingers it cut the star. Jp

 

[HavocUSMC]

Timing cutter

Thanks Gents for the info. I think it is included in the armors tool kit and it can be puchased from S&W. Hope to hit the revolver course next year.

 

[Fastbolt]

The tool is just referred to as the cutting arm. It's part of the revolver armorer tool kit.

S&W makes their own by welding a bar to a trigger for the appropriate revolver frame (like a J-cutting arm for the DAO revolver armorer class). The hardened cutting hand is installed in the trigger like a regular hand.

I've only cut a couple of extractors. I found that both required no further fitting in order for them to give good carry up, but the class (and manual) does show you how to identify any long ratchets and use a Barrett file to dress them.

The revolver tool kit is listed in this S&W armorer tool kit link (scroll down the page) and shows the K cutting arm, although the took kit I received had the J-cutting arm.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/other/academy/TOOLKITS.pdf

 

[RightWinger]

This may be a little off topic, but does anyone know how I can get the opportunity to attend a S&W amourers course? I was fortunate enough to attend one for the SW99 however I only went because it was a free class for me since another officer with another dept was unable to attend and a friend called me up and slipped me into the class. The class was informative but I have never owned one of these guns and doubt I will, however a course on revolvers would seem more useful since most S&W wheel guns all operate on the same fundemental design.

 

[Fastbolt]

Field School Listing - Smith & Wesson

Most field classes are scheduled some time in advance.

Many more classes are held at the Academy (at the factory).

Sometimes unscheduled classes (meaning not regularly scheduled field classes) are held at an agency when they adopt a new S&W weapon. Sometimes the class might be for the specific agency's staff, and sometimes it might be arranged to accommodate a couple of other fairly local agencies in the same situation. Sometimes these 'unscheduled' classes might have an extra seat available.