Rock island 1911s

I also have one of the RIA 1911 XT .22 magnums, my only squawk about it is they don't offer an adjustable rear sight for it, shoots consistently to the left. A rear sight to crank over with a screw would cure that.
It works better with the 45 or 50 grain .22 mag rounds,doesn't like the light rounds.
 
I owned two RIA years ago. One in 45 auto and the other 38 super. Fit and finish was typical of a cheap 1911. And they weren't reliable. That soured me on cheap 1911's.

Under $1000, I would buy a Ruger SR1911 or Springfield Loaded.

I would buy a RIA to plink with. But for serious work I carry a Dan Wesson.
 
You can buy a $3000 1911 if you can. But for that price, you can buy five RIAs. I have to ask is a $3k custom pistol five times better than a a RIA? To me, not a competition shooter, I don't see it.

Not wealthy and not a fan of high-priced 1911s. And while I appreciate the wish for a custom pistol, you will lose a helluva lot when you try to sell it. Proportionally, I would think a bit more, but I don't know.

I'm a shooter (occasionally) and have about as much use for a $3000 1911 as I would for an original Teddy Bear.
 
I bought a RIA 1911 Target and shot it for awhile, not bad at all. Then I thought I'd use the receiver as the basis of a Marvel conversion .22 and had trigger work done by Rick Hebert (1911 Custom guns ipsc uspsa). Rick was surprised at how accurately the frame was drilled for the sear and hammer pins and he had no problem doing a very fine 2 lb. creepless trigger. RIA's do what they are supposed to do.

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I've had an officers model RIA for several years. I can't get it to malfunction.

I have an officers model RIA and a full size. I guess you and I were lucky..... neither of mine will malfunction either.
 
RIA used to have a deservedly bad reputation. They were made of soft steel on old Colt machinery left in the Phillipines. Six or seven years ago, they upgraded their steel and bought CNC machines. Personally, I would rather have one than a Kimber. After my last new Colt, never again. The RIA's are way better than their sister guns, the Tisas and American Classic. They also shoot pretty well. And no plastic main spring housings, either.
 
Saw some interesting comments here.

1st I wouldn't trust my life to any new out of the box 1911 that I hadn't put some rounds through. 1911s need to kinda be just right to be one of the best fighting handguns ever made. That is true for any makers 1911. Having a gunsmith for a best friend until he passed I've seen every brand of 1911 that had problems including a few high end guns.

2nd I've owned my share of 1911s. Once the internals are right, the rest is fit, finish and YOUR EGO. Actually the worst 1911s I've ever owned other than 1 FED ORD were Colts. It isn't unusual for a 1911 to need a trigger job to make me happy. Other than that Fed Ord the only 1911s that I've owned that weren't at least OK out of the box were Colts. I've seen Colts that wouldn't feed FMJ ball out of the box.. Other than in 9mm I don't even bother trying a factory Colt magazine. I'm not talking $5 gunshow mags w a pony stamped on them, I'm talking about the mag that came new in the box w a new handgun.

Third the current crop of bargain 1911s such as Rocks and ATIs are pretty good and darn good for the money. I have no concerns about using one after some rounds to verify function just like I do on any 1911. I wouldn't buy one of their upgraded pistols because that is kinda like lipstick on a pig. If you want nicer than basic pay extra and step up to a name manufacturer. For a 1st 1911 especially for a guy on a budget, they are a great buy for a guy who doesn't wear his ego on his sleeve.

4th. For a custom build I'd strongly consider one. In fact i have an ATI I bought to try my hand at light custom work. If I BUBBA it I'm not out much.There are 2 reasons to build a custom 1911. 1st you make the pistol more reliable, possibly more accurate and most importantly to work better in YOUR hands. That is a great reason for a custom. 2nd is that EGO thing. My old gunsmith who could make 1911s stand up and dance used to complain to me over scotch and cigars about customers who would pay a lot of money for a top notch full blown custom 1911 and never shoot it.. I know some of those guys and their egos bleed their wallets. If your ego is driving the build forget about using anything but a Colt as a base gun. BTW don't kid yourself thinking you're going to make money on a custom as a reason for not shooting it.. Unless you keep it in the safe for years or you find a sucker, it isn't profitable. If I'm going to pay retail for a custom I want it to be my custom.

While Rocks and ATIs are good basic 1911s, I prefer a few bucks more for a Spingfield. I don't care where they are made, they work.. I've owned probably 10 of them, maybe more. I've got I think I still have 5 or 6 of their various models now. They have all worked. Other than replacing springs and mags when worn out, I have had 1 part break. That was a slide stop on a heavily used LW Compact model. They have all fed ball and every flavor of HP I've tried without any work. While they have all had trigger jobs the triggers werent bad out of the box.

Kimber makes pretty 1911s. Early ones were great.. I bought a used semi-custom and it is great. 1st generation though. About 2 years ago, i got a new one unfired from a client that owed me money. It was so out of spec that it wouldn't work. In fact my gunsmith said it was so out of spec it couldn't be fixed. Before I could send it back a gun dealer that I don't like took it off my hands. Since I was in it for money owed on a fee I let him have it. I've heard about quality control problems.

Ruger and Remington - no personal experience.. wouldn't hesitate to buy a Ruger.. I wouldn't buy a Remington because they basically cost as much as a Springfield without having any benefit over a Springfield.

Norinco if you can find one at a good price buy it. They are solid.

Taurus - not on a bet with your money. I know multiple gunsmiths who won't touch them. I know gun dealers who sell their revolvers who won't sell their 1911s.

High end 45s and custom packages from name gunsmiths - all I can say is that while I know a few guys that own one or more of them, I've never seen anyone actually carry one. As a trial lawyer I admit to owning an ego. You have to have an ego to walk in front of a jury when there is a lot of money or a guys life or freedom is on the line. That said I'm not impressed by an ego that a $3000 pistol drives. Other than that when I see a well worn but cared for high dollar 1911 tucked IWB on a guys hip I'll reserve judgement.. I will say that if you can afford one that's cool by me but I can't see buying a 1911 that you won't carry. I don't see that they are any better as a handgun to bet your life on compared to any other quality 1911 that has been properly function checked and maintained. Col. Jeff Cooper, love him or hate him was the guru of the 1911. From photos I've seen his personal 1911s were pretty plain. I bet they worked though.

Finally if you ever get to handle or even better shoot a Swenson worked over Colt or a Pachmeyer Combat Special or an old Kings 1911 you'll be holding history in your hands. Savor the experience. Those guns aren't necessarily better than what you can buy today but all those parts were custom hand made. The workmanship was excellent especially when you consider that they had to invent those parts as well as modifying basic parts or making them from stock.
 
I'm a 1911 addict. I own a bunch of them and its my favorite semi-auto pistol.
I know a lot of folks just love to brag on their high dollar 1911s. About how much better they are than anything you might have. I know Kimber fan boys are just about as bad as Glockophiles. :rolleyes:
But the simple truth is that for most of us average shooters, a high dollar 1911 is mostly a waste of money. Nothing more than bragging rights. "Ooooh, see what I got? Your gun is junk compared to mine." :rolleyes:
No, us average guys just aren't capable of wringing out that last little bit of accuracy a super expensive pistol is capable of. We just ain't that good.
For us, a reliable gun that's combat accurate at realistic defensive ranges is plenty good enough. The important thing is that it goes bang every time. If your cheap RIA fills the bill, then that's just fine. ;)
 
The first gun I ever bought with my own money was a nickel plated Rock Island GI. The quality fit and finish was top notch and the nickel plating job looked like something done in the 1920s. It even had those crappy GI blade sights on it. I called it the "Johnny Dillinger." First time I shot the gun I did it cowboy hollywood style from a quick draw holster and the first shot landed bullseye. Everyones jaw dropped to the ground and I just laughed re-holstered and left...
 
I bought a 9mm 1911 FS Tactical several years ago. It went back to customer service once due to ejection issues. They fixed the issue and in addition "tuned" it.
And I mean TUNED it!
When it came back it felt like the whole gun was glass sliding on grease! The trigger breaks like a glass rod at 4.5 pounds every time. Simply incredible. It is one of the smoothest 1911s I've ever handled. The only other 1911 I could compare it to was a $3000 Nighthawk I shot once.
It's that smooth.
And I didn't shoot the Nighthawk any better than my Rock Island. :o
It has also since been UTTERLY reliable... as in zero malfs, ever, with any ammo. Which is frankly quite a feat in a 70 series 9mm 1911 without a ramped barrel.
The only things I've done to it was install Wolff springs throughout, a Fusion steel mainspring housing, and a Caspian flat face trigger. It needs nothing else.
Prices on these guns have increased significantly, and they're not the bargain they once were, but they are solid guns at a good price with GREAT customer service.
For $350 it's a no-brainer!
 
Getting off topic here a little, but someone mentioned why would you buy a top end 1911 and not carry it because of the price? I have some really collectable and nice 1911's and 10mm's and other guns too and I carry them, ALL. The way I look at it is, if the SHTF, performing to perfection is more important than the gun and that's were the value lies, as is my life or my families life. When it gets confiscated and I never see it again because someone in the evidence room decides they need it more than me, so be it, that's what insurance is for. jmo
RIA's make great range toys, but again, I personally wouldn't trust my life with one.
 
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From some years behind the gun counter have certainly witnessed the ego thing come into play, not only on M1911's, but everything.
As a retired public servant, it always amazed me that there are guys walking about (and the shops where I worked p/t had many) that just simply had NO budget. It didn't exist.

If the shop happened to have a Nighthawk, an Ed Brown, a Wilson and a Cabot and the guy couldn't decide he'd just buy them all.
And most of these guys didn't really shoot, or they banged away at a dirt pile on their acreage.

I'll likely never own any real high-end 1911's. My assemblage of Colts, a lone early-ish Kimber, a Chas. Daly and RIA all run 100%. All use mostly Wilson mags, a few McCormick and work all the time.
So with the function and accuracy blocks dutifully checked, why would any be unsuitable for routine carry?

And, can't buy the whole 'what if it gets taken into evidence?' concern.
If indeed one's life has taken a turn where that has happened, you have far more things to be concerned with than a piece of replaceable hardware stored in LE Evidence.
 
I can't speak directly to RIA 1911s, but I own a officer model framed Citadel in 9mm Luger.

I have around a 1000 rounds through it with about 300 of them being my self defense hollow point and I have yet to have a failure with it. The trigger is superb, it manages controlled pairs and double taps extremely well and while it's not quite as accurate as some of my higher end 1911s, it'll keep everything in the X ring at 7 yards.

I paid $350 for it and then put another $100 in it for night sights and an extended safety. I have just as much confidence in it as I did the Kimber Ultra Carry that I conceal carried for almost a decade - it was also exceptionally reliable.

The unfortunate truth is that we've gotten in the bad habit of paying too much for 1911s. Modern CNC machining means that it doesn't take the craftsmanship it used to take to make a reliable 1911.
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I do own an RIA Baby Rock, and it is also very reliable - the most reliable .380 ACP I own. It's also capable of more than acceptable combat accuracy at 7 yards.

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I do own an RIA Baby Rock, and it is also very reliable - the most reliable .380 ACP I own. It's also capable of more than acceptable combat accuracy at 7 yards.

What isn't?
 
Had not revisited this in a while, I ended up buying two, first was a military grade basic gun, shot well trigger good not fine,

Then I bought the fs in nickel. It is the one with the black Novak sight clones, ambi safety ,full lenght guide rod, trigger was excellent on this gun. First trip to the range. With nib pistol from 20 yds bullets were striking steel in the same spot off hand, so I added some g10 grips and a Magwell
These two rocks reside beside my 1914 colt from ww1, a pair of kimber raptors, and a pair of sig 1911s a tribal officer model, and full size one.

I have never owned or shot a 2000dollar 1911.
But I would not feel underfunded against one with my RIA
 
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I have a RIA CS-Tactical bought three years ago for $450 with a $50 rebate which I received via USPS from the Philippines. I installed Israeli-made tritium sights but left all else alone save a little polishing of the feed ramp. I love this firearm and after 1200+ rounds not a single FTF or FTE or any problem of any kind. It gets fed exclusively hand-loads so it has had a varied diet and doesn't seem to care although it seems to be a bit more accurate with 200 grain bullets versus 230s. I have had a Series 80 Gold Cup National Match for decades (purchased new) and, for me, the RIA is more fun to shoot. It has one of the best factory triggers of any "new" firearm I've acquired in many years. These are fine firearms, especially for the money, and serve well.
 
RIA are very nice guns for the money and very reliable in my experience
Customer service is very responsive

I have a 45 FS Tac, two 9mms FS, a 10mm and a TCM/9mm (that TCM is fun to shoot
I took one of the 9's and opened the breech face a tad and put a 38 super barrel in it (from armscore) works like a champ
I also have a Kimber, a Smith, 2 Colt GC's, and a Springfield GI all nice as well.
All the RI's shoot very well, and never a FTF/FTE after broken in

The Full size 9mm is a better shooting gun than i am a shooter

For $350 it's a slam dunk do it
Greyfox got it right
 
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