Round under extractor

Robert B

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I don't have this failure. Moon clips prevent this. I am transitioning from moons to speed loaders. How does this failure happen? How can I avoid this problem as I use speed loaders?
 
Watch Out

snubbyfan is showing what most consider the very best way to avoid that problem. But watch out in competitions such as USPSA. If you get too close to the vertical 180 line, some range officers will DQ you.
 
Other Methods

There are other methods. One of the best books I've seen on the subject is "GunDigest Book of the Revolver" (paperback). It goes in to great detail on several types of reloading and malfunction clearing.
 
Why would that be a DQ in a competition?

I have never been in a competition - or even spectated at one - but from what I have seen on TV and read on the inter webs - I would hazard a guess that each range has very specific rules about how far above the horizon a firearm may be aimed at any time while on the firing line - regardless of whether it hold live rounds or not (since the RO cannot tell that from looking at you). I am sure there are other rules as well such as not turning around and aiming the gun more than a certain distance away from down range - and possibly even rules about not doing a muzzle sweep across your own body parts while drawing or holstering a weapon.

These rules are for everyone's safety - both those on the range - as well as those miles away. Should it be possible to safely unload/reload your weapon under conditions outside of the rules imposed by the range, sure, but the idea (I would think) is to make it easy for the RO to spot clear violations in order to keep everyone safe.

I imagine you could think of it as exaggerated safety precautions made necessary by the wide range of shooters and firearms on the range and the limited number of ROs available combined with the utmost priority to keep the sport safe for everyone involved.
 
snubbyfan is showing what most consider the very best way to avoid that problem. But watch out in competitions such as USPSA. If you get too close to the vertical 180 line, some range officers will DQ you.

The vertical 180 line is a plane (or imaginary vertical wall) that goes through the gun. On one side of the plane is the targets down range. On the other side of the plane is the safety area for spectators. The muzzle must always be pointed on the downrange side of the plane.

In the ejection picture the muzzle is pointed straight up so it is right on the plane or the vertical 180 line as the poster called it. At the range officer's discretion this could be considered a violation.

Remember a lot of guys are shooting auto's so they might not know anything about revolvers like the best position for ejection.
 
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Muzzle up when empting a cylinder is good. If I purchased a new revolver, I would try it out to see if it was susceptible to having an empty get caught below the extractor before worrying about it though.

Proper procedure will make caught empties less of a problem.
 

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