shawnfergie
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Do both. I just picked up a 10/22 for $220 out the door in Ohio.
Ruger 10/22 or m&p 15-22?
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15-22 pros- easy to clean, functions idenical to a acctual AR, adjustable stock for the younger ones. Infinitly cheaply customizable & lighter.
Cons - availability of mags, twice the price in stock form
10-22 pro's- a classic, more accurate.
Cons - hard to clean, high capacity mags are not very good, customizing is very expensive, no adjustable stock, heavier.
But in the end...ask the kids which they want.
Cons - availability of mags, twice the price in stock form
10-22 pro's- a classic, more accurate.
Cons - hard to clean, high capacity mags are not very good, customizing is very expensive, no adjustable stock, heavier.
But in the end...ask the kids which they want.
I own a 15-22, but not a 10/22.
I think you should get a little input from your children to see what they would like more. I think when i was 10-13 years old the 15-22 would have made me more interested in shooting than a standard 10/22, just because of the looks. I don't know if any of your kids are into call of duty or any video games but if they are the 15-22 probably looks more fun to them, although both guns shoot the same round.
The 15-22 has plenty of space on the rails and every thing i have on mine can be removed/put on in the matter of minutes. I just recently bought mine and i actually thought about going with a 10/22 and just customizing it to look more like an AR, but i realized going with the 15-22 was the better, more economic choice.
Again, i think your kids should have a say. It sounds like you want something that all 4 of you can go to the range with and come home with a big smile on your face.
IMO, i think the 15-22 would be the better choice.
I think you should get a little input from your children to see what they would like more. I think when i was 10-13 years old the 15-22 would have made me more interested in shooting than a standard 10/22, just because of the looks. I don't know if any of your kids are into call of duty or any video games but if they are the 15-22 probably looks more fun to them, although both guns shoot the same round.
The 15-22 has plenty of space on the rails and every thing i have on mine can be removed/put on in the matter of minutes. I just recently bought mine and i actually thought about going with a 10/22 and just customizing it to look more like an AR, but i realized going with the 15-22 was the better, more economic choice.
Again, i think your kids should have a say. It sounds like you want something that all 4 of you can go to the range with and come home with a big smile on your face.
IMO, i think the 15-22 would be the better choice.
Of course this is the S&W forum so............... If I had the crew you have I think I would get 2 of the 10-22s or you are going to have trouble.
Maybe save for awhile then get the 15-22 for yourself. And that will not be yours for long once the kids shoot it.
Above all have fun with those kids, they are our future.
Maybe save for awhile then get the 15-22 for yourself. And that will not be yours for long once the kids shoot it.
Above all have fun with those kids, they are our future.
Sid Nitzerglobin
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Both so one person can be shooting and one loading each rifle. If this isn't a possibility I think it comes down to which rifle draws you to it more.
15-22 seems more fun for freeform plinking and has a much more "tactical" feel out of the box but the 10/22 definitely has it on tightness and consistency of groups for me. 10/22 will be cheaper right out of the box, but it winds up a wash or worse if you're planning to give it the tacticool treatment.
I've had my 15-22 since the beginning of December 2012 and have put about 9000 rounds through it since then w/o a hiccup that wasn't directly ammo or aftermarket mag related. I've probably put 500-600 through my friend's 10/22. I've got a NIB 10/22 Takedown of my own on the way.
So far I have also had more all around fun shooting the 15-22 vs. my friend's 10/22, but in my hands it doesn't seem to fully scratch my occasional itch to have a rifle w/ 100 yard tack driving capabilities. The 18.5" barreled 10/22 seems to fit this bill.
15-22 seems more fun for freeform plinking and has a much more "tactical" feel out of the box but the 10/22 definitely has it on tightness and consistency of groups for me. 10/22 will be cheaper right out of the box, but it winds up a wash or worse if you're planning to give it the tacticool treatment.
I've had my 15-22 since the beginning of December 2012 and have put about 9000 rounds through it since then w/o a hiccup that wasn't directly ammo or aftermarket mag related. I've probably put 500-600 through my friend's 10/22. I've got a NIB 10/22 Takedown of my own on the way.
So far I have also had more all around fun shooting the 15-22 vs. my friend's 10/22, but in my hands it doesn't seem to fully scratch my occasional itch to have a rifle w/ 100 yard tack driving capabilities. The 18.5" barreled 10/22 seems to fit this bill.
rjnear
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I have both, and the 10/22 is more accurate so this rifle is with scope and more longer range shooting and the M&P 15-22 is my close range shooting with iron sites and red dot. As far as fun factor the M&P 15-22 wins hands downI for see much more lead being pushed thru the barrel of the 15-22 that the 10/22.
If you can swing getting both then I would get both, other wise I think if I could only get one it would be the 15-22.
If you can swing getting both then I would get both, other wise I think if I could only get one it would be the 15-22.
Dezfan
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I own both. My Dad bought me my first 10-22 in the mid 70s (still own and fire it regularly).
I bought my son his first 22 (10-22) for Christmas. He's fired mine for a few years, so I figured it was time for one of his own. I shoot the 10-22 regularly and I still enjoy shooting the 10-22 as it's a timeless and well designed firearm.
That said, I now prefer to shoot my 15-22. It's just more enjoyable to shoot and I prefer the manual of arms that I have become accustomed to with my AR.
I bought my son his first 22 (10-22) for Christmas. He's fired mine for a few years, so I figured it was time for one of his own. I shoot the 10-22 regularly and I still enjoy shooting the 10-22 as it's a timeless and well designed firearm.
That said, I now prefer to shoot my 15-22. It's just more enjoyable to shoot and I prefer the manual of arms that I have become accustomed to with my AR.
I am a S&W collector. But Ruger has the market on .22 rifles hands down.
If you want a good / great .22 semi auto buy a 10/22. The 15-22 by Smith is an very good .22. And if the difference in getting your boys interested lies in the "form" them buy the SW 15-22. But the 10/22 is far and away a better rifle.
I own over 50 S&W's. The only Ruger's I own are .22s....both pistols and rifles.
I also spent 6 years carrying a M16. 1976-1982. They never made me smile when I fired them (not in combat). The Mini-14 on the other hand like the M- 14 is a great rifle.
So again I own both revolvers and semi autos in S&W.. more than 50. They make by far the best handuns. BUT they do not make the best rifles compared to Ruger.
If you want the best .22 rifle buy a Ruger. Or .223 /5.56 as well... IMO which comes which experience.
If you want a good / great .22 semi auto buy a 10/22. The 15-22 by Smith is an very good .22. And if the difference in getting your boys interested lies in the "form" them buy the SW 15-22. But the 10/22 is far and away a better rifle.
I own over 50 S&W's. The only Ruger's I own are .22s....both pistols and rifles.
I also spent 6 years carrying a M16. 1976-1982. They never made me smile when I fired them (not in combat). The Mini-14 on the other hand like the M- 14 is a great rifle.
So again I own both revolvers and semi autos in S&W.. more than 50. They make by far the best handuns. BUT they do not make the best rifles compared to Ruger.
If you want the best .22 rifle buy a Ruger. Or .223 /5.56 as well... IMO which comes which experience.
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Well I bought the S&W 15-22 MOE and I'm just getting around to starting to add accessories and work out its final configuration. That said I have a Ruger Mini 14 223 and I love it and don't have any plans for getting an AR-15. What's funny is I'm a Vietnam combat veteran who carried an M-16 for half of my tour and then carried a M-14 sniper rifle until I left.
I never had a problem with the M-16 and it never failed me in a fire fight but it never endured itself to me either. In fact we called them Mattie Mattel toys when we were there.
I never had a problem with the M-16 and it never failed me in a fire fight but it never endured itself to me either. In fact we called them Mattie Mattel toys when we were there.
kbm6893
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Wisdom comes from experience. If you gave a child the choice for what to eat for dinner, he'd ask for cheeseburgers and french fries everytime, but we wouldn't support that. For great music, they want Justin Bieber. Not many here would agree with that, either.
Are we really supporting letting a kid's interest in a video game be the deciding factor as to what to buy?
Yeah, that tactical rail on the 15-22 is a real winner. Who knows when we're gonna want to hang a tactical light or a laser on a .22. The 10/22 puts the same holes on paper, is more accurate, and customizable. And the whole "15-22 as a trainer for the AR" is nonsense. The recoil is so different it's not training anybody.
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I also own both rifles. In my opinion, the 15-22 merits the extra money because there is more content, and many pieces are interchangeable with an AR15.
Accuracy differences between them is debatable.
I shoot both regularly and like both for different reasons.
Go ahead and get the 15-22. You won't regret the decision. But, as I've found, the purchase price is just the starting point with this rifle. I've spent the purchase price again in accessories.
My Ruger is the take down version. I bought a scope and some BX25s for it and stopped. It didn't need anything else for my purposes.
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Accuracy differences between them is debatable.
I shoot both regularly and like both for different reasons.
Go ahead and get the 15-22. You won't regret the decision. But, as I've found, the purchase price is just the starting point with this rifle. I've spent the purchase price again in accessories.
My Ruger is the take down version. I bought a scope and some BX25s for it and stopped. It didn't need anything else for my purposes.
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Col. Plink
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If you have normal boys, they probably don't give a rip about higher accuracy of the 10/22. The 15-22 wins hands down for the coolness factor, plus it is a great rifle in the eyes of many of us here.
I may get a 10/22 someday, but it will likely be for a bullpup conversion. Either that, or get one to add a scope to, for use in putting critters in the pot to feed the family when we are all living in post-apocalyptic times ...
I may get a 10/22 someday, but it will likely be for a bullpup conversion. Either that, or get one to add a scope to, for use in putting critters in the pot to feed the family when we are all living in post-apocalyptic times ...
I wanted both, so I bought both hehe. I guess I wanted a tacticool AR-22 , but also wanted a more accurate scoped semi auto .22 and I just couldn't combine them by getting something like a archangel .22 or scoping a 15-22. Now, I have a bull barrel on my ruger, and sold my 15-22 for a .22 conversion kit and extras on my RRA AR-15, I love it.
NOLASHOOTER
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I have owned both and I offer this to you. If you are going to teach them not just shooting but all that is involved with shooting then I would go with the 15-22. It is easier to take down and clean and cleaning the rifle is a big part of shooting. That is not to say that the 10/22 is impossible but not as easy. The 15-22 will also adjust better to the smaller shooters. I will also say that loading 10/22 magazines can be painful after a while and may keep them from wanting to shoot more.
I started off with a 10/22 and tried to tactical it up and realized I was just trying to get it to look like the 15-22 but it never got there and was probably the same price when it was all said and done. I sold it and had been wanting the 15-22 for a while and recently picked up one. The 10/22 is a solid rifle that would be a fine purchase and you could make it a really accurate target shooter with upgrades but with the group you are shopping for it may not matter to them.
I started off with a 10/22 and tried to tactical it up and realized I was just trying to get it to look like the 15-22 but it never got there and was probably the same price when it was all said and done. I sold it and had been wanting the 15-22 for a while and recently picked up one. The 10/22 is a solid rifle that would be a fine purchase and you could make it a really accurate target shooter with upgrades but with the group you are shopping for it may not matter to them.
Faulkner
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I currently own both.
I love my 15-22 and really enjoy shooting it.
For teaching young people, no doubt I'd go with the Ruger 10-22.
I love my 15-22 and really enjoy shooting it.
For teaching young people, no doubt I'd go with the Ruger 10-22.
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I bought my boy a 15/22 because I thought it was more like what he see's in his games.
My friend bought his boy a 10/22.
I bought myself a used 597 Yellow Jacket.
My boy also has a scoped Marlin bolt action that he enjoys.
The truth is that when we all go shooting together everyone enjoys shooting all of the different .22 configurations.
The thing that drives me nuts is that he doesn't seem to think the rimfire rifles and pistols are nearly as interesting as the centerfire. He seems to have great interest in my 9mm. He shows a lot of interest in the Desert Eagle 50 and 1911 style 45's and AK style rifles at the gun show. He has limited interest in my wheelguns. For some reason he thinks a top break revolver is exciting. (not sure what game that is used in) I showed him how to reload 44 magnums - seemed to bore him.
It was very interesting to go to the gun show with him and see what sparked his interest.
I guess when he starts paying his own way he can buy and shoot what he wants. Until then... he gets to shoot .22s and centerfire only on occasion.
My friend bought his boy a 10/22.
I bought myself a used 597 Yellow Jacket.
My boy also has a scoped Marlin bolt action that he enjoys.
The truth is that when we all go shooting together everyone enjoys shooting all of the different .22 configurations.
The thing that drives me nuts is that he doesn't seem to think the rimfire rifles and pistols are nearly as interesting as the centerfire. He seems to have great interest in my 9mm. He shows a lot of interest in the Desert Eagle 50 and 1911 style 45's and AK style rifles at the gun show. He has limited interest in my wheelguns. For some reason he thinks a top break revolver is exciting. (not sure what game that is used in) I showed him how to reload 44 magnums - seemed to bore him.
It was very interesting to go to the gun show with him and see what sparked his interest.
I guess when he starts paying his own way he can buy and shoot what he wants. Until then... he gets to shoot .22s and centerfire only on occasion.
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I bought a ruger itac 10/22 for 319 in December. Great gun, take a look at it. Much better than my 15/22. I put a vertical grip and nikon 3-9x scope on it.
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Here is my Ruger ITAC.
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personally.. I would do the 10-22 only because the aftermarket is so much better then the 15-22. You can swap out barrels, stocks, etc. I had to make a similar decision after I purchased my 15-22. I wanted another 22lr but since I already had a semi, I decided to get a Savage MKII to mix it up a little. Now I'm having a blast with the bolt action. Super accurate, saves on ammo, and teached me to take time on my shots. Just another option if you don't go with the 15-22.
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