S&W 25-5
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BiggerHammer
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Gun 4 fun you didn't say where you are in mich and I see a cople more in Mi where are you fellas in mi? and yes it is Pined but recessed I don't know? and my wife remined me I have another smith the black un fluted 500 mag 7.5 I don't shoot that one very much so I have 3 S&W hand guns But I am not into S&W like you fellas are I only came to them later in my life and as far as the AR10 I thaught if I sold this one and put a bit more with it I might buy a ar but you fellas might change my mind I see these mod 25 are a bit hard to get and it is a good shooter. BiggerHammer
OIF1 45man
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I have a 25-5 with a serial number of N098xxx. A 452 hornady drops right through the cylinder. A Barnes triple x with a nominal diameter of .458 can be pushed through with a pencil. Accuracy is marginal but no keyholing with factory or reloads. What are my options for getting the cylinder re-throated?
Sir, you'd need a new cylinder.
Smith recently made some blued Mountain Guns in .45 Colt, so they may have new .45 Colt cylinders in stock. The new guns use a different extractor/ratchet setup than the old guns, though, so it may or may not work. Best bet would be to call Smith and ask.
Another option would be to find a cylinder from a Model 57 or 29 and have it reamed for .45 Colt and fit to your gun.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
rljatl
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Ask Jim Stroh at Alpha Precision about his accuracy package (Taylor Throating). I believe this is the most cost effective ($165) way to correct the problem and will give you a very accurate revolver.
http://www.alphaprecisioninc.com/revolver/default.htm
http://www.alphaprecisioninc.com/revolver/default.htm
The problem he may have is oversized throats. There's nothing any gunsmith can do short of replacing the cylinder with either a re-chambered .44 cylinder or a custom made one. However he says it shoots fine so I wouldn't worry too much.FWIW
They are both 25-5's and they are both pinned but they are NOT recessed. As was stated earlier, only magnum calibers and rimfires used recessed cylinders. 45 colts, 38 specials and other non-magnum centerfires were not recessed.
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BiggerHammer
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You fellas got me to thinking and so I got my Caliper and Micrmeter out and checked each of the cyc where the bullet comes out and they measered 447 to 450 so I hope that is where Im suposed to measer and so I hope that makes my 25 a good gun and if any one wants another measerment just tell me where to measer it so now we have a Nickle 4" pined TT,TH,TS, and wood grips by S&W is there anything else? and now for a realistic value? and a thank you to all for the replys and a spicial thanks to tim. BiggerHammer
Hey BiggerHammer- sounds like you measured them OK. The guns with oversized throats usually measure right around .456-.458. Ideally they should measure no less than .451 and no bigger than .453. Hope this helps.
I just re-read your post and I see that you said .447-.450. If that is accurate, then a simple throating job will bring them into spec. There is a guy in Grand Blanc MI. (just outside of Flint) named Dave Manson. He grinds an awful lot of the custom chambering reamers used by custom gunsmiths. He makes a throating reamer kit that you can buy from Brownells and do the job yourself, but if you've never tried it then I would suggest that you take it to a gunsmith that you trust and have him do for you, it if you decide to have it done.
The reason I mentioned this is that if you measured correctly, your throats are tight and would benefit from having them opened up. Accuracy would improve, pressures would drop and shot to shot dispersal would be minimized.
The reason I mentioned this is that if you measured correctly, your throats are tight and would benefit from having them opened up. Accuracy would improve, pressures would drop and shot to shot dispersal would be minimized.
rljatl
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This is not accurate information. Talk to Jim Stroh at Alpha Precision or Hamilton Bowen. Ask them about Taylor throating.
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BiggerHammer
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I think I will shoot 45's another way I will Just put them in this
BiggerHammer
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All the "I read about it on the internet" in the world is hot air if the gun works. I never measured the throats on my 25-5 because it shoots as well as any other N frame I own. Well, maybe not the 625s, but that's another story.
I have a 4" Nickel 25-5 I'd rate 98%+, and I believe it's worth about $700-$800, depending on my mood. If you have the original box and tools and documents, add $75 (cardboard) to $125 (wood) depending on the box. I'm not interested in selling mine, but that's the ballpark figure I'd start with.
Your mileage may vary.
Jack Flash
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If you are going to trade it away or sell it anyway, it would probably be counterproductive to have any gunsmithing done on it, especially if it shoots reasonably well as is.
At least three or four of us have given you value estimates. Sorry that you don't consider them realistic.
At least three or four of us have given you value estimates. Sorry that you don't consider them realistic.
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BiggerHammer
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it was not that I didn't think you fellas were not realistic it was so many problems that had to be awnserd first wood grips thin the size of the cyc to witch I mic-ed and also droped a 452 mic bullet and it was a little tight so as far as the cyc it is not oversized and papers? I got a S&W booklet and if someone wanted a box that bad I would make it no problem I have a pertty nice wood shop. Oh and thin the matter of pined or not it is, also It is Nickled so with all awnserd I wondered if the value had changed and if everthing is the right size and the gun works fine and shoots right on why would I need any gunsmithing? and finily with all that I have come to the point where it is to much a problem to mess with and it wint back in the safe. I do wish to thank all pro or con in the replys it has been a eye opener. BiggerHammer
Isn't Taylor throating done to the barrel? Specifically the forcing cone?
I don't know of a way to make oversize chambers smaller. Is there a way?
Andy Taylor
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The nickel gun at the start of this thread is pinned. It is not recessed. The recessed 25-5 that you see in the other thread was created by boring out a recessed M29 .44 magnum cylinder. The owner of the gun has said so on this forum.
I stand corrected on the nickel gun. The owner has been e-mailing back and forth with me.
However, the second gun is recessed, just not by the factory. I read his post yesterday evening
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I can admit when I'm wrong, and do so willingly.
Have a great day!
However, the second gun is recessed, just not by the factory. I read his post yesterday evening
I can admit when I'm wrong, and do so willingly.
Have a great day!
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