S&W 66 history (additional detail)? Sights and gas ring

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The S&W model 66 is an interesting model. I have been a little curious about the more detailed early history of the revolver, so I have a couple questions.

I have heard that some 66 no dash models switched to the black sights during the production run of the no dash because the stainless sights were easy to pickup visually. How late into the no dash timeline would the switch have been made from stainless to black sights?

In the history of the model 19 I have read that the -2 and early -3 guns (late 60’s early 70’s) had the gas ring on the cylinder but in the mid 70’s (1974?) the gas ring was moved to the yoke during later -3 production and then back to the cylinder on the 19-4 and 66-1. Did the model 66 start with the gas ring on the yoke in 1972 before the 19-3 received it in 1974? Could a very early model 66 have the gas ring on the cylinder like the 19-2 and very early model-3’s? Some histories I have see say the change to the gas ring was strictly when the -3 was introduced and some say it was a later running change in the production of the -3, so there may be some various points of view on this and how it relates to running changes in the model 66.

Model 66
66 (1971): Stamping of each model.
66-1 (1977): Changed the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder.
66-2 (1982): Eliminated pinned and recessed, slightly lengthened cylinder.
66-3 (1986): New yoke retention system/radius stud package/hammer nose bushing/floating hand.
66-4 (1994): Change rear sight leaf, drill and tap frame, introduce Uncle Mike's grips, change extractor.
66-5 (1998): Change in frame design: eliminate cylinder stop stud/eliminate serrated tangs/change to MIM hammer with floating firing pin/change internal lockwork.
66-6 (2002): Introduced internal lock.
66-7 (?): Two piece barrel and internal lock,
(2005): Discontinued.
66-8 (2014): Reintroduced with 4.25" barrel in 2014 and later with a 2.75" barrel in 2017.
 
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Did the model 66 start with the gas ring on the yoke in 1972 before the 19-3 received it in 1974? Could a very early model 66 have the gas ring on the cylinder like the 19-2 and very early model-3’s? Some histories I have see say the change to the gas ring was strictly when the -3 was introduced and some say it was a later running change in the production of the -3, so there may be some various points of view on this and how it relates to running changes in the model 66.

Model 66
66 (1971): Stamping of each model.
66-1 (1977): Changed the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder.
66-2 (1982): Eliminated pinned and recessed, slightly lengthened cylinder.

Since the M66 didn't come along until 1970, the engineering change numbers aren't the same as for the M19 for the changes made. M66 correlates with the M19-3, the M66-1 would be the same changes as the M19-4. My understanding of the gas ring change is that M66 and M19-3 production started out with the gas ring on the cylinder, and at some point around 1974 the gas ring was moved to the yoke and done without an engineering change. When the M19-4 and M66-1 started in 1977, the gas ring was changed back to the cylinder and the guns received an engineering change for it. My M19-3 has the gas ring on the cylinder, which substantiates that and the SN puts it in 1974 production, so slightly before the gas ring shift.

The ring was initially moved to try to decrease carbon fouling in the axle well of the cylinder but apparently when mounted to the yoke it didn't work as well as when pressed into the cylinder well. In addition to the change, the undercut on the forcing cone is slightly deeper with the gas-ring on the yoke, only a millimeter or so but noticeable when you have two guns to compare.
 
I have a Model 66 (no dash) with a stainless steel rear sight and the gas ring on the cylinder (where it belongs). Ship date June 1975. Apparently it was very close to the transition to the black rear sight by serial number 7K164xx. Moving the gas ring to the yoke May have happened at the same time but I am not certain of that.
 
A warm welcome to the forum community. I apologize for the language errors, I use a translator. I am writing to you from a distant country in central Europe from Poland. :-)

Please help me determine the year of manufacture of Mod. 66. serial no.: 2K831**
-No dash
-Gas ring on the cylinder
-pinned barrel
- stainless steel sight
- Pachmayr grip
- recessed cylinder
- narrow and grooved trigger
- slightly wider hammer
- 4” barrel

This revolver was imported for the German market after production. In Europe, every gun is marked with punches. It has stamped German punches and the year 1974. Of course, it does not have to be the year of manufacture. It is the year of testing in Germany.
How much does such a revolver cost in the US?

Thanks in advance for your help :)

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A warm welcome to the forum community. I apologize for the language errors, I use a translator. I am writing to you from a distant country in central Europe from Poland. :-)

Please help me determine the year of manufacture of Mod. 66. serial no.: 2K831**
-No dash
-Gas ring on the cylinder
-pinned barrel
- stainless steel sight
- Pachmayr grip
- recessed cylinder
- narrow and grooved trigger
- slightly wider hammer
- 4” barrel

This revolver was imported for the German market after production. In Europe, every gun is marked with punches. It has stamped German punches and the year 1974. Of course, it does not have to be the year of manufacture. It is the year of testing in Germany.
How much does such a revolver cost in the US?

Thanks in advance for your help :)

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Welcome to the Forum.
 
Your use of the translation program seems pretty good. I have seen some that are less impressive. Depending on condition and other variables, probably in the $700-1000 (US) range.
 
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