setxn
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Dang Grog you sure blacked out this thread ! It was just getting interesting.
S&W Confirms SD and SIGMA VE Share Same Guide Rod Part #
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Yes. I have been messing with my new SD40 for the last three days.
Here's what I think about the trigger.
I had heard a few people on various sites complain that the trigger was awful and gritty while looking at the SD in a gun case. This is indeed the case with the SD...As it is with almost every other pistol on the planet with polymer and MIM trigger parts and brand new springs.
The good news is with a good cleaning, a little Armor All, A tiny bit of silicone grease and about 1000 dry fires...the SD trigger smooths right out and the gritty texture rubbing on texture feel disappears.
(Apply the Armor all and grease After dry firing about 1000 times. other wise your just preventing the friction that smooths out the plastic parts.)
The SD's trigger has settled into a very satisfactory Glock like snap, with a little more effortless take up on the front end than the Glock, as is the characteristic of the S&W split trigger.
The only other thing I've done with it so far has been to black out the white dots on the rear sight with a Sharpy, because I felt they overpowered the front sight with the Trijicon insert. I've now definitely decided to switch out the rear sight and go with the Ameriglo Operator Rear Sight, that has the tritium inserts embedded in black silicone, that makes the tritium inserts simple metallic pin points, that do not distract attention from the front sight on daylight presentation.
Here's what I think about the trigger.
I had heard a few people on various sites complain that the trigger was awful and gritty while looking at the SD in a gun case. This is indeed the case with the SD...As it is with almost every other pistol on the planet with polymer and MIM trigger parts and brand new springs.
The good news is with a good cleaning, a little Armor All, A tiny bit of silicone grease and about 1000 dry fires...the SD trigger smooths right out and the gritty texture rubbing on texture feel disappears.
(Apply the Armor all and grease After dry firing about 1000 times. other wise your just preventing the friction that smooths out the plastic parts.)
The SD's trigger has settled into a very satisfactory Glock like snap, with a little more effortless take up on the front end than the Glock, as is the characteristic of the S&W split trigger.
The only other thing I've done with it so far has been to black out the white dots on the rear sight with a Sharpy, because I felt they overpowered the front sight with the Trijicon insert. I've now definitely decided to switch out the rear sight and go with the Ameriglo Operator Rear Sight, that has the tritium inserts embedded in black silicone, that makes the tritium inserts simple metallic pin points, that do not distract attention from the front sight on daylight presentation.
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I've been shooting the SD9/40 for a few weeks. I like 'em!
Ran some drills w the usual suspects (M&P, P229DAK, P2000LEM, G19/23, XD) and I like the SDs the best of the bunch!
It runs better than the HK P30 I had last year; ya never know?
I can understand why S&W doesn't want to call it a Sigma; the "Sigma Stigma" is still strong even though they have been working fine for yrs now. There is enough borrowed M&P and new parts to give it a new name. It's at least a new breed, not the same dog w a new haircut.
Not a Glock killer, but nothing wrong w another good choice. Don't see much LE/MIL appeal since it lacks the adjustable grip and ambi/reversible controls so many contracts have a requirement/preference for now (and why there is a "Gen4" Glock). OTOH, if I was issued the SD I wouldn't complain.
Nice to know the steel Sigma rod will fit. Can you use the steel rod w the flat springs off the stock unit?
Ran some drills w the usual suspects (M&P, P229DAK, P2000LEM, G19/23, XD) and I like the SDs the best of the bunch!
It runs better than the HK P30 I had last year; ya never know?
I can understand why S&W doesn't want to call it a Sigma; the "Sigma Stigma" is still strong even though they have been working fine for yrs now. There is enough borrowed M&P and new parts to give it a new name. It's at least a new breed, not the same dog w a new haircut.
Not a Glock killer, but nothing wrong w another good choice. Don't see much LE/MIL appeal since it lacks the adjustable grip and ambi/reversible controls so many contracts have a requirement/preference for now (and why there is a "Gen4" Glock). OTOH, if I was issued the SD I wouldn't complain.
Nice to know the steel Sigma rod will fit. Can you use the steel rod w the flat springs off the stock unit?
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Comparing the SD or the Sigma to the Glock is so unfair. The Sigma is on average 200-250 bucks cheaper and the SD is 100-150 bucks cheaper than the glock.
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At the local gun stores the SD is about $50 more than the Sigma, about $80 less than the Glock 19/23, and $120 less than the M&P9/40.
Pretty much the same steel and plastic go in all of them, and all of them are pretty much made the same way; should cost about the same to make all of them too. The cost of local labor, R&D, T&E, advertsing, marketing, price point strategies, etc have as much/more to do w price differences than materials, workmanship, and performance. Why an SA XD costs more than an HS2000 for example.
The SD9 I've been shooting works better for me than the HK P30 I bought last year, or the SIG P229R DAK and HK P2000 LEM I bought the year before...and it cost half as much! Nothing "fair" about that either; it just is what it is. I'm just happy the SD is a better value as well as just better for me than some "better" guns.
Pretty much the same steel and plastic go in all of them, and all of them are pretty much made the same way; should cost about the same to make all of them too. The cost of local labor, R&D, T&E, advertsing, marketing, price point strategies, etc have as much/more to do w price differences than materials, workmanship, and performance. Why an SA XD costs more than an HS2000 for example.
The SD9 I've been shooting works better for me than the HK P30 I bought last year, or the SIG P229R DAK and HK P2000 LEM I bought the year before...and it cost half as much! Nothing "fair" about that either; it just is what it is. I'm just happy the SD is a better value as well as just better for me than some "better" guns.
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Here is another SD Parts news item.
In a very Brief Q&A E-mail exchange. APEX has confirmed that they are in the R&D phase of coming out with APEX after market "SD parts".
APEX did not say it was a trigger kit or that it was a certainty that they would ever get to market. I don't want to be misquoted. They did say they were in "the R&D phase" though. Which is very encouraging.
This is big, big news.
In a very Brief Q&A E-mail exchange. APEX has confirmed that they are in the R&D phase of coming out with APEX after market "SD parts".
APEX did not say it was a trigger kit or that it was a certainty that they would ever get to market. I don't want to be misquoted. They did say they were in "the R&D phase" though. Which is very encouraging.
This is big, big news.
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I've owned a Sigma 40ve for about 2 years now. Yes, I shot low and left when I first picked it up. It has made me a better marksman (& I use that term loosely). You either adjust to the trigger or keep looking like a newbie at the range. I adjusted. Now when I shoot my Glocks, Taurus, etc. I really do better. What used to be "hit or miss" is now "how tight is the group". Instead of all those people trashing the Sigma over the years they should have been shooting it and getting better...Oh well, it's like having kids. You know what they need to do, but you also know that they will never listen to you! Youth is wasted on the young.
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