S&W Model 442-2 Issue

[jimmyj]

Just purchased a NIB S&W Model 442-2 Revolver.
Testing the D/A trigger pull I discovered that the cylinder will lock up every 4-5 trigger pulls. I was using the red plastic disk to avoid dropping the firing pin on a empty chamber. I then removed the plastic disk and inserted once fired cartride cases and the cylinder locked up as with the plastic disk. I then removed the cases and dry fired on empty chambers and had the same issue as prior. I then took the side plate of, oiled all moving parts, installed a heavier trigger return spring. Had the same issue with the cylinder locking up as before.
Opinions ?

 

[Jimmyjones]

Is the trigger fully resetting each time?

I had a similar issue with a 642, the cylinder stop spring was bent and out of position, the cylinder stop was hanging the trigger and causing it to short stroke.

If you can change springs you should be able to pull the mainspring and the sideplate and gently cycle the action and see if you see anything.

 

[chief38]

If it’s brand new call S&W and have them send you a call tag for pick up. Let them either fix it or replace it.

 

[michpatriot]

Seem to recall this on a 329PD airlite and I took it completely apart and cleaned some gritty substance out of the internals and lightly oiled it..worked fine ever since. Couldn't believe the gritty crud on a factory new revolver.

 

[armorer951]

When you mention that it "locks up", is this at the beginning of the trigger pull (as occurs in short stroke) or at the very end, when the trigger is fully to the rear?

 

[Gun Fighter]

I would just call and get a call tag and send it back to them to get it fixed.

 

[Mercury]

When you say that the cylinder locks up every 4-5 trigger pulls, does that mean that it's just stops turning before the cylinder stop drops into place or does it mean that its binding?

If it's just not locking up, does it not lockup on the same chamber each time? If so, that would have me look at the ejector to see if the corresponding ratchet needs attention.

If the cylinder binds up, then another set of circumstances are causing the problem.

 

[jimmyj]

When you mention that it "locks up", is this at the beginning of the trigger pull (as occurs in short stroke) or at the very end, when the trigger is fully to the rear?

The issue is at the beginning of the trigger pull.

 

[jimmyj]

I contacted S&W Customer Service, The Rep advised to fire the revolver to determine if the issue still existed ?

 

[556A2]

Pop the side plate and lube the internals.

 

[Sevens]

He literally said that he did exactly that

...in the first post.

 

[556A2]

He literally said that he did exactly that

...in the first post.

Graveyard-Shift Brain Fog

 

[PhilT]

442 Trigger

Had the same problem with NIB 442-1. Sent it in to S&W, waited 6 weeks, problem solved. Then, had a basic trigger job done by TK. Now, it's perfect.

 

[jimmyj]

Following S&W advice I went to the range and fired the Model 442 using factory 148 grain W/C ammo. Same problem occurred. From my observation the trigger is not engauging the locking bolt everytime.
Attempted to contact S&W via telephone and discovered that the Company is closed until Monday 11/28/.

 

[S-W4EVER]

I agree with those advising to send it back to S&W. When it comes back, shoot it until you can trust it to defend your life. I would feel naked without my 442-2 (no lock) in my leather pancake holster when I leave the house, I have full confidence in it and I hope you are ultimately able to trust your 442-2 that much.

 

[stansdds]

Following S&W advice I went to the range and fired the Model 442 using factory 148 grain W/C ammo. Same problem occurred. From my observation the trigger is not engauging the locking bolt everytime.
Attempted to contact S&W via telephone and discovered that the Company is closed until Monday 11/28/.

Time for that one to go back to where it came from. Wonder if S&W will thank you for being one of their many, unpaid quality control consultants?

 

[armorer951]

I hate to let them off the hook, but it's easier for me to just fix them myself. Some of the ones I've sent back for warranty issues in recent years have been shipped back in worse condition than when they left here.

Amazing to me how customer discovered issues that are obviously gross workmanship and/or assembly errors can be ignored, and even characterized as "normal" when (after) the gun reaches the customer. This, along with no cognitive and systematic factory sponsored inspection of every single gun before the assembled parts are shown the door.

Very sad, particularly for those of us who have been loyal customers, admirers, and promoters for many decades.

Carter