S&W revolver collecting question...

Scored my first vintage S&W...!

Well, I bought my first vintage S&W today! I was playing around on Gun Broker and won an auction on a Pre-lock Model 15, 5 screw. The revolver wasn't on my original list. But, what the hell...lol. My cherry has been popped and looks like I'm on the hunt for my 2nd vintage S&W.

I also bought a S&W reference book to help educate myself.
 
Well, I bought my first vintage S&W today! I was playing around on Gun Broker and won an auction on a Pre-lock Model 15, 5 screw. The revolver wasn't on my original list. But, what the hell...lol. My cherry has been popped and looks like I'm on the hunt for my 2nd vintage S&W.

I also bought a S&W reference book to help educate myself.

Congrats Jim!!! If you gotta lose your virginity, the Pre-15 is a great start and will keep you satisfied for awhile. Can't wait to hear about your future finds. Books are great but information from the super knowledgeable folks on this forum will be more helpful than anything in that book. Welcome to the S&W revolver Club!
Ray
 
Lots of good suggestions on here. I have found that children greatly prefer a magna/service grip size with a T-Grip vs. target or combat grips. Those are just too big.

I decided to take a lot of time and hunt down those rarer models, but if you're not going to do that, it's pretty cut and dry.

17, 18, or 617 .22LR
17, 18, 67 .38 Special
57, 58, 657 .41 Magnum

I find this set of posts to be helpful as a quick guide when searching model # info: How to Identify/Date a S&W
 
Model 34 4" barrel

I have been listing a pistol that might be just what you are looking for. It is a Mod. 34, excellent condition in .22 with a 4" barrel. I have the original box, marked to the pistols ser. no. I have dropped the price to $500 but that still might be more than you were contemplating.
Just thought I 'd toss it out. Sure like to see a guy get what he's looking for. Best of luck.:)
 
Big hands will appreciate an N frame

As several others have mentioned you can't beat a model 28 Highway Patrolman. As your size is large your sons will probably follow suit and you will all enjoy the N frame.
I bought a 28 in 1968 for full retail of $98.00 and it is still among my favorites. I mention the price as a Model 27 was $125.00 but might as well been a thousand as it was way out of my reach. Around 30 years later I did buy a Model 27 for way more and it sure is pretty but it sits in the safe while I enjoy the 28.
Good luck on your hunt.
 
Sporting Revolvers/Fun Guns!

I love all of my Smith's but by far my favorite is my 617.
If you love shooting 22's, and larger K frame revolvers the 617 is perfect. I would reccomend a pre lock version. The 6" barrel is the most common. Comes in 6 or 10 shot versions. 4" and 8" barrels are also out there for a little bit more.
Other good picks for 22. Any of the older 17 or K22's are great guns. Gotta get a 686, or an old 27 (357, 38s). An if you want some 44 action get either a 29 or 629.
Always try to go pre lock if you can. Nothing truely wrong with the lock, I just dont like seeing the hole.

Good luck, an have fun,
Josh
 
Smith & Wesson makes the best revolvers out there and they have for some time.

There are dozens of models to choose from.

A .357 Magnum is a great place to start any collection and there are several excellent optione to you.
The Model 19, 66, 27, 28, 581, 586, 681 and 686 are all top notch options. They are all available in different barrel lengths as well. A 4" revolver in any of those guns is a great cornerstone for your collection.

Start off looking for one of those. Any of those guns can also chamber 38 special rounds which can be shot all day.

In 41 Magnum the model 57 and the 657 are the Cadillacs, and the model 58 is a Military & Police service revolver with a cult following. If you reload a 41 Magnum is a great revolver. If you do not reload, look for a 44 Magnum.
 
Yea, as others have mentioned, the 686 is a great option, and a great starting point for a solid revolver with some heft to minimize kick. If you go with the 4" barrel it keeps the weight reasonable, and there are lots of grips to chose from . There are so many you can always find a good looking shooter at a very reasonable price.
 
For now, go slow...

I've been watching and occasionally cherry-picking S&W firearms from the auction sites and now and then from gun shows for a couple of decades now, and I have to say you've picked a bad time to start. For some reason, S&W revolvers, particularly the mid and large frames with adjustable sights, are fetching eye-watering prices at the moment. These things seem to go in cycles, and right now they're up. 2nd and 3rd Generation S&W autoloaders are a drug on the market right now; you can pick up a 469 or 669 in decent shape for under $400 almost anywhere.
There are a couple of revolver types that still look like bargains, at least for now. The fixed-sight K-frames, particularly the .38 Special guns like the Model 10, aren't fetching the prices that the Model 19s and 66s are. They are excellent guns with lockwork and finish generally identical to their pricier brethren and they usually make exceptional shooters. The fixed sights are large, sharp and easy to pick up, and they never break or get out of adjustment. I'll admit I tend to go for the adjustable sight models, but honestly, how often do you actually move those fancy sights?
The other segment that's got some bargains now is the J-frame guns. There are several reasons. Lots of people are trading them off for the new mini-9mm autos. Also, there are lots of folks who buy them and find that they are nasty little beasts to fire with full-house loads and rather demanding of the shooter. That's partly the fault of S&W for marketing them as the LadySmith to women shooters. Most women (and a lot of men) new to shooting take an instant dislike to them after one range session. They bark and they bite and they are not user-friendly. They're what I, as former law enforcement and as a firearms instructor, would class as an expert's weapon. That said, they're well worth getting to know. They're h--l-for-stout rugged, incredibly reliable, extremely concealable, and in experienced hands as deadly as anything out there. Put one in a Ransom rest and the accuracy will astound most folks who think of them as a belly gun for close work only. They're also currently a bargain. I picked up a 1955 pre-Model 36, all original, for just under $300 very recently. With midrange wadcutters or light-recoil self defense rounds and a decent set of grips, they're not unpleasant to shoot and practice with.
On another subject, don't be a snob about eye appeal, particularly if you're looking for shooters. Lots of these old guns have traveled far and not been gently handled and may show scratches or mild rust or scuffing. Police trade-ins will usually have significant holster wear. None of that makes a bit of difference to the accuracy or generally the reliability, unless the former owner has been using it as a hammer. It takes real talent and perseverance to damage a Smith & Wesson revolver, and a decent gunsmith can usually set right anything short of a cracked frame. I've got more than one of every modern frame size, and the smoothest action of any is on a 4-screw 6" Model 14 that I picked up for $140 on an auction site. I put in a lowball bid, not expecting to win, but everybody else saw nothing but the fact that the idiot first owner had used an electric pencil to scratch his name on it. He'd also apparently dropped it and bent the ejector rod slightly. That cost me about ten bucks for a replacement, plus a few more for a Power Custom spring set, and it's now as close to perfection as they get. I keep thinking about polishing off that name and getting it re-blued, and then I think that the name of anybody stupid enough to do that to such a gun should live in infamy. Someday...
 
Your first purchase should be either a Model 15 or 67 38 special. I know, it's not a Magnum. However the old tapered barrel 4 inch 38 specials have the finest balance in the hand of any handgun ever made. BTW, while a 4 inch model 19 has decent balance that "heavy" barrel profile does impede transitioning between targets enough to be noticed and the full lug model 686 is a bit like swinging a truck in comparison to the original Combat Masterpiece.

The next option is a 3 inch model 686 because by giving up 1 inch in barrel length you get close to the near perfect balance of the Combat Masterpiece.

Then there is the 2 1/2 inch model 19, while it's a bit "twitchy" like a go cart they can be a real joy to shoot and if you pay very close attention to your sight picture the accuracy you can achieve is rather stunning. The only downside is that you do have to be a bit cautious with ammo selection for 357 Magnum and only purchase versions with 158 grain bullets.

As for the 41 Magnums, forgetaboutit. Ammo is VERY difficult to find in local shops and the recoil of a full house 41 Magnum is nearly the same as the 44 Magnum so do yourself and your wallet a favor and go straight for Dirty Harry's choice, the 44 magnum.

For 22LR go withthe 4 inch model 18 22 Combat Masterpiece. While the smaller bore means that it is heavier than either the 15 or 67 it is a well balanced revolver that is a fantastic platform for training new shooters and it's just plain fun to shoot. BTW, I have a 6 inch model 617 6 shot version and it's actually heavier than a 6 inch model 29 44 Magnum. Those itty bitty bores mean more steel in the cylinder and barrel and as a result most 22 caliber 22 revolvers will be heavier than you might expect.
 
Good suggestions all.
Here is my short list, of should have Smith and Wesson revolvers.
Model 18.
Model 19, 4" barrel.
Model 66, 4" barrel.
Model 28, either 4" or 6" barrel.

Others you may well want

Model 10, 4" barrel
Model 36, 2" barrel
Model 19/66, 2 1/2" barrel

Whatever you decide to do have fun doing it.
 
Love the old K frames. I learned to shoot years ago in High School. Shot a lot of my step dad's Model 17 in 22LR, and then bought a Model 19 4in. 375 that I carried with me horseback in Colorado growing up 35 years later its still my favorite pistol and my most accurate.

I still love the Model 19, (66 in stainless) but recently picked up a model 17 6in. 22 of my own. Love to use it for novice shooters and would highly recommend it. The K frame is good size, smaller than the old N frame on the Model 28 and 29, though I also love my "Dirty Harry" model 29 6in. 44 mag.

I tell people:

The Model 17 22 is a "target killer"
The Model 19 357 is a "Burglar Killer"
and the Model 29 44 Mag is a "Zombie Killer" LOL.
 
Dangerous move by purchasing the 15. K frames have a tendency to multiply. Enjoy your quest, but don't forget to do plenty of shooting with your new toys. Have fun and be safe.
 
Definitely the Model 17 and Model 18 are the classic blued .22 target revolvers, so one of those is essentially a requirement.

It also sounds like an N-frame in .357 Magnum would be a great fit, so the Model 27 (fancy deep blue or nickel) or Model 28 (matte finish workhorse) are the answers there.

I know nothing about the .41 Magnum, but it sounds expensive.

Good luck!
 
UPDATE: I've purchased two more revolvers that were recommended on this thread by multiple people.

I have a model 10 & 64 in route to me as I write this post. The model 10 has some cosmetic issues that need to be improved upon and the model 64 looks to be extremely awesome!
 
Congratulations!! Your journey down the slippery slope has begun. Buy them, clean them up as best you can, feed, shoot, enjoy, then repeat. Now to find the "N" frames. While your large hands might not find the "J" frame 30 or 31 to your likes, the wife and son will love them. Go ahead and start looking for that bigger safe. The affection will only end when you run out of air. hardcase60
 
That 5-screw pre-15 is a great introduction to the K-frame Masterpiece series. I started with a 1954 5-screw and was amazed at the fantastic trigger and the accuracy. Then I found a Model 17-3 6" in .22lr and it will go to my grandson when I'm gone. He took his first shot at age 8 with that gun and hit dead center bullseye.

For large hands and .357 Magnum the Model 28 is a workhorse that will never wear out.
 
Lol...I've been busy this weekend...I just added a Model 10-5, with a 4" pencil barrel to the growing collection. Now it's time to do more research and see what's next on the list! Thanks for all the help!
 
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I know you asked specifically about Smiths but another option for revolvers in 22lr is the High Standard Sentinel. Alloy frame, 9 shot, double action. It's an ingenious design done by the same guy who did the rotary mags in the Ruger 10/22. The only screw in it is the grip screw. I found mine for $175 in a pawn shop. It's not as refined as a Smith but try finding a 22 Smith for 175.
 

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I know that this is a S&W forum but don't overlook older breaktop H&R, High Standard and Iver Johnson .22's. A 50-90 year old example in good condition can be had for under 25% of a K-22. Kind of a mini Schofield.

You are to be admired for introducing your sons to shooting sports as your dad did for you.
 
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