S&W Revolvers. Any Rare Collectibles in this bunch? Current Values?

[one65r]

Ok Guys, after the great feedback I got on the 22/32 Transitional Kit pistol, I thought I'd post some info on other S&W's I had and see if any of these were highly collectible, interesting facts on them, and estimated current market value on these. I'll be thinning the heard before long and I'll probably sell off a good many of these. Not necessarily keeping the most rare, or the cheapest. I'd just like to know what a current market value is on these things.

Here is a list of the Model #'s and then I'll give a detailed description of them. If you can give me any feedback on any of them (production year, rarity, interesting facts about specific models, unique things to look for, etc.) I'd really appreciate it.
When it does come time to sell these, I'll give those that give input, first dibs when I go to sell them.
Model 29-2
Model 60 (no dash)
Model 19-2
Model 631
Model 60-4
Model 18-2
Model 15-2
Model 36
Model 34-1
Model 19-2
Model 66 (no dash)
Model 17-2
Model 36

Detailed Description:
Model 29-2: 6 1/2" Barrel. Blue. 44 Mag . Serial #28456_. This has a fat trigger and hammer? There is also a Star on stamped into the lower left of frame (under grip) and the same star inside when you swing out the cylinder. Adj. Sites. Pinned.

Model 60 (no dash). Stainless w/ Stainless Tyler's T Grip. 1.75" Barrel. 38 S&W Spec. Serial #62218_.

Model 19-2: 4" Barrel. Factory option with Fat Trigger/Hammer. Pinned. Diamond Grips. Adj. Sites. Serial #K1360_.

Model 631: Stainless 32 Magnum. 4" Barrel. Adj. Sites. Beautiful curved wood grips. Serial #BEZ315_.

Model 60-4: Stainless 38 S&W Spec. 3" Barrel. Black Uncle Mike's Grips. Serial #BFY650_.

The following pistols are like new to excellent in the box with Warranty Card, cleaning tools, S&W Brown Paper, etc.

Model 18-2 (22 Combat Masterpiece) 4" Barrel. Blue. Adj. Sights. Serial #K75730_. Pinned. 22lr. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 15-2 (.38 Combat Masterpiece) 4" Barrel. Blue. 38 S&W Spc. No Diamond Grip. Serial #K71745_. Pinned. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 36 (.38 Chiefs Special) 2" Barrel. Square Butt. Box says Special Features: T.P. Target. Serial #39180_. Blued. Pinned. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 34-1 (22/32 Kit Pistol) 4" Barrel. Square Butt. Blued. Serial #10415_. Pinned. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 19-2 (357 Combat Magnum) 2 1/2" Barrel. Adj. Sites. Round Butt. Finish: BT Stock: R. Serial #K68625_. Pinned. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 19-2 (357 Combat Magnum) 4" Barrel. Blued. Adj. Sites. Serial #K71478_. Box says Front Site: RR, Stock: T. Pinned. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 66 (no dash) (357 Combat Magnum Stainless) 4" Barrel. Rear site is adjustable/stainless. Pinned. Serial #2K9643_. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 17-2 (K22 Masterpiece) 6" Barrel. Blued. Stock: S. Serial #K79005_. Pinned. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

Model 36 (no dash) (Chiefs Special) Square Butt. 2" Barrel. Stock: S. Serial #39180_. Box Says Special Features: Target. Finish: B. Pinned. In Box with Warranty card, cleaning, etc.

I can upload pics if necessary. I think most of my details are correct. I also have a couple others, but they don't have the model # stamped in them, so I'll need to do a little detective work with the serial #'s, etc.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

 

[Muley Gil]

What is the letter prefix on your M29-2? It should be either an "S" or an "N".

Are you sure your M631 isn't a 4" barrel? Measure from the front of the cylinder to the end of the barrel. These aren't found often.

M19-2s are nice guns also.

Actually, all of your Smiths are nice ones.

 

[VM]

You have a nice group of revolvers. The best way to price them is to look at completed auctions on Gunbroker.
Pictures and details of condition are a must to determine value.

How about posting some pictures of the last one.......model 36 / target

 

[jumbeaux]

Dates

Nice group....wish I had some $$$

29-2 S pre-fix ?? 1966-67
60 ???? not in pre R pre-fix range and too high for R pre-fix
19-2 number missing I think
631
60-4 1990-

18-2 1967
15-2 1967
36 1962-69
34-1 1965-69
19-2 2.5" 1966
19-2 4" 1966
66 1972
17-2 1968

Not an expert and may be off base some but hope this helps.....

rick

 

[rags]

Nice well rounded collection. Could you post pics of the Model 19-2 (357 Combat Magnum) 2 1/2" Barrel, and the Model 15-2 (.38 Combat Masterpiece) 4" Barrel?

rags

 

[beagleye]

The 18-2 is a really nice gun.

Awesome list!! There's a few on my wish list that are on your list list. If you post pictures of the whole lot you will make us happy.

 

[one65r]

The 29-2 has an S prefix.
Sorry, the 631 has a 4" barrel. That was a typo.
Will this forum let you upload pics direct from your computer, or do you have to use imageshack or something like that to link them in? Once I get my kids down, I can post pics for everyone.
A few of them have the factory fat trigger or hammer? What's the proper way to refer to those?

Oh, the big kicker on those Model 36's is, they are sequential! forgot to add that!
On the boxes for both of those, in the special features section on the boxes, it says: T.P. Target and the other just says Target. Anyone know the difference? What does it add to the collectors value if they are sequential? Both of these are basically new in the box.

 

[DCWilson]

Nice bunch of revolvers. That's a good collection right there.

I tend to discount the value of consecutive serial numbers. I look at individual guns, not two-packs. Others find consecutive numbers collectible, so opinions vary on that count.

 

[one65r]

update-thanks

Jimbeaux, thanks for the input. Her are a couple adds to your post.

60 ???? not in pre R pre-fix range and too high for R pre-fix (It's still in the box. I double checked. # is correct. I've read about the early ones having the stainless rear sight, and that's what this has. Don't know if that helps date it).

19-2 number missing I think (I double checked, the whole # is listed with an _ for the last digit.)

631 Update-(Grips were marked underneath with April 9, 1990)

I've got 2 other pistols that I don't know how to describe. They don't have a model # or a "Name" marked anywhere on them. If you could tell me how they're referred to, that would be great.

As far as helping with current pricing, as one member suggested, I normally watch GB and put similar pistols in my watch list, and then look at the auctions with bids to see what they are actually selling for. On a couple of these, I didn't know how they were referred to because they didn't have a specific model #.

Mystery Pistol #1: Almost identical to my 29-2. Caliber is 44 S&W Special. Blue. Barrel is 6.5". Pinned barrel. Adjust. Sites. Diamond Grips, but has a fatter factory hammer, but just a regular width trigger. Under the barrel in the recessed area and the bottom of the grip are marked with S-14586_. Grips have magnetic piece in top. When cylinder is open, there is a G5865_ over an 8, stamped inside.

Mystery Pistol #2: Almost identical size/shape of my 19-2. Caliber is 44S&W Special. Blued. Barrel is 4". Adjust. Sites., Diamond Grip, Pinned Barrel, Under barrel inside recessed area is marked S 14108_ and when the cylinder is opened, there is an O, under that the #5327_, over an 8.

Any help in identifying what these last 2 pistols are is greatly appreciated. I'm fired up to know how active this forum is, compared to some of the others I frequent. Thanks for your help on this.

 

[Art Doc]

The last two sound like 1950 Target Model 44 Specials. Very desirable and the 4" would be very valuable as few were made on special order. The serials would be from 1955.

 

[Cobroller]

SaxonPig beat me on the pop quiz. I thought it was an open book (3rd edition) exam.

Great list of smiths.

 

[kritter]

Mystery Pistol"s........GASP...1950 Target Model 44 Specials
yea, I'm jealous....

I knew they be able to help you over here,,lol

 

[peyton]

The 631 is in the $800.00 zone, especially if you have the box. Pictures will help a lot when it comes time to sell.

 

[Hondo44]

Mystery Revolvers #1 & #2

I agree with SaxonPig. Also known as Pre Model 24s. The matching # on the butt, barrel, cylinder, back side of crane (looking thru one chamber with the cylinder open), backside of the extractor 'star' and inside of right grip are the serial number. Disregard the #s in the yoke with cylinder open, they are factory assembler and inspector #s.

The 6.5" should have diamonds in the grips to be correct vintage for that gun.

Do either of these two have a box and or paperwork & tools?

Sorry to hear that you have to sell some of these, it's a nice collection of older choice model Smith revolvers.

 

[JSR III]

Is this your collection or did you inherit it?

 

[David LaPell]

The 29-2, the Model 19's and the 1950 .44 Specials are all excellent guns in addition to the 631, but overall the whole collection is quite valuable.

 

[GLL]

Mystery 4" .44 Special #2 does indeed sound like a pre-24. I (and many others as well) would love to see a photo of that gun ! Is the S&W insignia small and on the left side or large and on the right side plate ?

Jerry

 

[one65r]

More corrections.

Hondo, you were correct. That first mystery pistol did have the diamond grip, and all of these pistols should be like they came from S&W. Also, the frames on these 2 50's Target Pistols are identical, one is just a longer barrel.
On the 6" barrel, it definitely has a factory fatter hammer and trigger.
On the 4" barrel, the trigger is fatter, but it's something overlayed on the trigger that makes it fatter. It's got the same groves in it, etc. as the other fat trigger, except it's secured on the right side by 2 allen screws. On the left side of the trigger extension, there is a "P" and on the right side of the trigger an "AI" or "A1"

On both of those Mystery Pistols (50's Target Models), neither of them have a serial # on the grips, but both have the same style diamond wood grips, that are oversized, and have an indention where your right thumb would sit on the left of the pistol. They do not have the football shaped thing on the inside of the grip, so i'd assume they are what came on them. When I get a chance this week, I'll post high res pics of them with grips removed, and closeup of proofs, etc.

Neither of the 50's target pistols have a box, papers, or cleaning supplies. The 4" Barrel Pistol #2 is the only one that shows any real signs of use, but it's just slight holster rubs on the left side of the muzzle and other common areas. Definitely used, but NOT abused in any way. The 6" barrel one is in excellent shape.

I've got great high res images of all of these, and will post them when I get time this week, so if any of you have requests, shoot me a PM or post it here. Send me your email and it's easier for me to shoot you a photo instead of going through the trouble to post it and link it into this thread.

Does anyone know a way to do a batch upload of pics to this forum instead of cut/pasting in all the imageshack links in separately?

Thanks in advance for any more input you guys could give me.
As I said early on, those that give beneficial input to this thread will get taken care of.

 

[DCWilson]

As I said early on, those that give beneficial input to this thread will get taken care of.

Oops. Wrong tone for me, so I will drift off elsewhere. I am happy to share knowledge and express appreciation for fine revolvers when I see them, but I am not a research assistant and I don't do pre-arranged reciprocal back-scratching.

It's a good specimen collection of model-marked revolvers. I wish you good luck selling the ones that you need to.

 

[Muley Gil]

"On the 4" barrel, the trigger is fatter, but it's something overlayed on the trigger that makes it fatter. It's got the same groves in it, etc. as the other fat trigger, except it's secured on the right side by 2 allen screws. On the left side of the trigger extension, there is a "P" and on the right side of the trigger an "AI" or "A1".

That's an aftermarket trigger shoe. It gives the effect of the wider target trigger. Some of them can interfere with holstering, aqctually causing the shoe to hang on the holster and discharge the revolver.