S&W Shield malfunction

I repeat it is a failure to reset
There were problems in the past on MP9s
Called sear flutter that sometimes resulted in a failed trigger
Forget this light primer stuff
The gun didn't reset
The Shield had a new RAM it was supposedly immune from this problem so S&W early in 2013 used it on all their MP9s
Evidently it can still happen as it happened on my new MP9C after about 200 rds next 50 were OK
Since then I had an APEX FSS installed ( because I didn't like all the pre travel etc )
No problems 110 rds but we shall see
 
I had the same problem, but I called it trigger failing to reset. It went back to the factory twice, but after changing everything but the slide and the frame, it now runs fine. Mine was a Jan '14 production.

Gun was **** to start with, but the CS guy (same one both calls) really worked for me. He had the gun sent to him after the last repair and tested it himself (and sent it back again).

All else aside, their CS rocks (as the kids say).
 
Wayne937 has it right guys. He knows what he's talking about.

This isn't make believe.

He has to send it to S&W

No amount of shooting will fix this.

The problem is not new to the Shield or MPs.

I know many folks have these pistols and have never had a problem with them. That's great.

They are too buggy for my taste as an sd option. I have no confidence in them.

The pistol is of no use if it won't work every time.

Just my opinion, of course.
 
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I sincerely feel that this weapon needs sent back to S&W for an inspection. I will not be able to trust it if I don't send it back. For my piece of mind, I will be calling S&W soon.
 
hoc9sw said:
I had the same problem, but I called it trigger failing to reset. It went back to the factory twice, but after changing everything but the slide and the frame, it now runs fine. Mine was a Jan '14 production.

Gun was **** to start with, but the CS guy (same one both calls) really worked for me. He had the gun sent to him after the last repair and tested it himself (and sent it back again).

All else aside, their CS rocks (as the kids say).
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How can it be adequately tested
Mine failure to reset didn't happen till the 200 rd
None on the next 160
How many did he fire
Unless S&W knows what the exact problem this sending it back and they change parts around is just a hit and miss deal
Three people here have had the same problem --fail to reset
Just wish S&W knew exactly what causes the problem
 
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Dino1 said:
You need to get 5 or 6 hundred rounds down it before you make an assumption. Break the weapon in first...
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Terrible advice. Spend $180 in ammo to prove a problem exists? This is not a 1911 gun forum where break-in is typical. Striker fired guns should work out of the box without compromise.
 
Stratajema said:
Terrible advice. Spend $180 in ammo to prove a problem exists? This is not a 1911 gun forum where break-in is typical. Striker fired guns should work out of the box without compromise.
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All pistols should work right out of the box. Otherwise they are broken or defective.
 
Over 2,700 rounds thru my Shield 9mm (Documented + or -) a Mag or two. Not one single malfunction, Its accurate and very reliable purchased about 8/2012 so it was an early release gun. Plan on buying another Shield 9mm next week.
10-8 Rear Square Notch and the Ameriglo front sight. Great little gun IMHO

1SG
Out
 
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Mine is doing the same thing.I bought mine nib two week's ago. Went to the range and fired about 125 rds. and it did this about 3 or 4 times. Went today and fired 100 rds. and it did it about 3 or 4 times again.
 
misterT said:
Mine is doing the same thing.I bought mine nib two week's ago. Went to the range and fired about 125 rds. and it did this about 3 or 4 times. Went today and fired 100 rds. and it did it about 3 or 4 times again.
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Well that is 4 people on this forum and I doubt every S&W Shield owner is here so S&W has a definite problem or I should say the owners do
I just hope having the APEX Trigger FSS installed on my MP9C fixed the problem
110 rds so far
 
For anyone that wants to test this theory.

I was watching Apex Tactical Videos, tonight. At the end of this video (@ 8:00) makes me think that the loops that activates the sear may not be adjusted properly on the failing Shields. just a thought.

Trigger Bar Loop Adjustment - YouTube
 
Atticaz said:
For anyone that wants to test this theory.

I was watching Apex Tactical Videos, tonight. At the end of this video (@ 8:00) makes me think that the loops that activates the sear may not be adjusted properly on the failing Shields. just a thought.
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Good catch. You're probably right.
 
rcp1936 said:
Well that is 4 people on this forum and I doubt every S&W Shield owner is here so S&W has a definite problem or I should say the owners do
I just hope having the APEX Trigger FSS installed on my MP9C fixed the problem
110 rds so far
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Even if your gun functions correctly why should anyone have to install and aftermarket APEX trigger to make it work (which probably cost around $100)...would you buy a car/truck and then be told you would have to spend $1000 more bucks to make reliable for you wife to take your kids to school...just saying...other brands of polymer work well out of the box...like GLOCK....
 
skip4309 said:
Even if your gun functions correctly why should anyone have to install and aftermarket APEX trigger to make it work (which probably cost around $100)...would you buy a car/truck and then be told you would have to spend $1000 more bucks to make reliable for you wife to take your kids to school...just saying...other brands of polymer work well out of the box...like GLOCK....
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I had it installed because it makes it close to a 1911
but I am hoping the failure to reset goes away in the process

Yes I agree you should not have to go after market to fix a manufaturers problem
 
the fix

roccity9 said:
I'm having the same issue with my 9mm Shield.. Been out twice with it and have fired at about 250 rounds thru it. Using Federal Champion 115 grain.. First time out I had 2 FTE and 2 FTF out of 175 rounds. The second time out I had 2 FTF..I checked the bullet and the primer cap wasn't struck.. Not very impressed with this gun in spite of all the reviews.. Going out again this weekend and see how it does.. Maybe in the market for another Glock if the Smith doesn't live up to my expectations..
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Smith and Wesson Tech support told me the factory puts a very heavy coating on the barrel to protect against rust. They said it will take about 3 good cleanings to get that all off and the gun may not go fully into battery until that is completely cleaned. Said after the third cleaning and oil it should work perfectly
 
Well if this is true, does not reset, I am going to hold off and wait until Glock comes out with a 9mm slim line and then buy that.
 
skip4309 said:
Even if your gun functions correctly why should anyone have to install and aftermarket APEX trigger to make it work (which probably cost around $100)...would you buy a car/truck and then be told you would have to spend $1000 more bucks to make reliable for you wife to take your kids to school...just saying...other brands of polymer work well out of the box...like GLOCK....
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You don't have to install these to make it work properly. The point of it is for personal preference. The point of the video being posted is for the information at the end of it. The trigger on these pistols, unlike many, are very adjustable. The trigger bar loop, if not set right, at the factory can cause a malfunction.

Before that is attacked, a naturally aspirated car can handle a ton of variables. Put a turbo on it and a ton can go wrong if one thing is out of whack. Most guns are made to work how they work. This one had adjustability.

If you are not sure what is going on with your firearm, by all means, send it in. But, I think of a pistol like a car. If I am going to own it and trust it with my life, I need to understand how it works and be able to a fix it myself, to the best of my abilities.

Yes Glocks are reliable, But that is because they are not made with adjustability. Sure you can buy parts that make the trigger pull different or polish parts. But, a 100ths of and inch of an adjustment to the trigger bar can turn a stock trigger into a dream trigger for a M&P user.
 
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