Scientists to Study Bigfoot DNA

hannstv said:
I have from a good authority that the DNA came from an NFL nose tackle to be named at a later date!
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Or it could be a guy I played with in college. He played offensive tackle. The team had to buy custom made cleats for him because his feet were so big. We used to joke that his knuckles dragged on the ground when he walked upright.
 
Bigfoot DNA? heck with that.

I'm all excited about CLONING WOOLY MAMMOTHS!! I want to see wooly mammoths before I die. The Russians have sme viable DNA and Scientists feel it can be done.

A dinosaur would be better...but don't think I have THAT long left.

FN in MT
 
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Prof to the anthropology undergrad:
*OK - Follow these BIG footprints and get a swab of the inside of the critter's cheek. Try to leave the swab where we can find it.*
 
GatorFarmer said:
It is a European group that will test the DNA and study various hair samples. Anyone have a spare Heym 470? We could get a safari together.
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I'm in for the safari, but still worried about that whole "forest bride" thing. Promise you won't let them take me alive!:eek:
 
BigE said:
It's getting Squachy in here! I love the show Finding Bigfoot. Pretty much because I think they're crazy going out in the woods and yelling saying they're doing 'sasquach calls'.
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I've seen one or two episodes. I get Discovery, but not, "Animal Planet."


I was browsing, "Maxim" in the grocery checkout line this week, and they have a Bigfoot feature about this TV group.

They seem pretty silly, and hardly likely to produce scientific results. It is groups like this that give such research a bad image.

As for the gun, I've thought about that a bit over the years, and keep coming back to a S&W M-629-3 with six-inch barrel. Most .44 Magnum loads should work, but if one can get the true Keith load with his hard-cast bullet, that might be ideal.

A man in Ruger ads some years ago had no trouble killing gorillas with a Super Blackhawk and with a Ruger .44 carbine. This was for a museum group, and I think he was in the Congo.

I think a .470 is overkill, and affords just two shots. A .375 H&H Magnum should be plenty if a rifle can be carried. A 12 gauge with Brenneke slugs would probably work, too.

I lean toward the theory that Bigfoot/Sasquatch is probably something like the supposedly extinct Gigantopithecus ape. There are probably several forms, depending on region and climate. The Florida skunk ape is among them, and we have something here in East Texas. It is likely the same type beast that made headlines around Fouk, AR some years ago, and sent one man there to a hospital in Texarkana after a mauling. There were a couple of hoked-up movies made about that. A friend, an outdoor writer whose name many of you would know, lives near there and examined the tracks from the movie. He told me they were too narrow for the weight of the animals and were almost surely made up by the specal effects crew.

But casts of some tracks in the Pacific NW have been valid, right down to wrinkles and lines that scientists said would be almost impossible to reproduce. They were also anatomically what one would expect from a large biped primate.

But we'll probably have to have both the ape and the DNA samples to match one to the other. I hope that one can be tranquilized to get the hair follices (sp?), saliva, and whatever else is needed.

As for knives (the plural is not "knifes", as one wag is satirizing here) for Bigfoot, I guess one might get lucky and be able to reach an artery or other vital point if one had someone down and was mauling him, if the ape didn't just rip off an arm. A companion might be able to use a knife when firing a shot might imperil the victim.

I had lunch with Col. Rex Applegate once and we discussed blade length, in terms of combat knives. Rex had extensive feedback from OSS agents and others whom he had trained during WW II and they felt a six-inch blade was adequate for humans, as most vital organs lie within its reach. In the well known case of South African game ranger Harry Wolhuter, a six-inch blade was enough to reach the heart of a lion that was dragging Wolhuter off to feed on him. Such a knife will probably also reach the carotid or femoral arteries of a Bigfoot. I have a copy of a book by W.E. Fairbairn that tells where to stab or slash with a knife for best effect. That human model will sub for Bigfoot, if scaled up.

When I was in the military and wanted a combat/survival knife, I leaned toward a seven-inch blade. A friend destined for Thailand made up a Randall Model 1 from a kit that Randall then supplied. His work was immaculate, as good as the Randall shop's. He chose an eight-inch blade, in case he neded to stab a tiger. I think that was wise, but longer knives are bulky nd unlikely to do much more. The biggest I have that I'd consider is a Fallkniven NL-2, with a Bowie-shaped blade about 20CM, around eight inches. I think their A-1 with six-inch blade might also work, as will the original SOG SEAL 2000, which passed rigorous government trials, as have several Fallkniven models. Muela of Spain makes a knife similar to the SEAL 2000 for less money. It is called the Tornado, and is imported here. Similar knives, like the Buck Models 119 and 120 and the Randall Models 1 ,5, and 14 should be excellent. But I'd sure try to avoid having to use a knife on a Bigfoot or other large animal, although I know that some some famous people in the 19th Century did stab bears with knives, to make a hunt more exciting. Confederate general Wade Hampton was among them, and Sir Samuel Baker, who also stabbed wild pigs. They seemed to have knives about like the Randall Arkansas Toothpick, judging from contemporary prints by such artists as Currier & Ives. But they were stabbing the anilmals from in front, trying for the heart, I think.

We know of the case of an angler in a Canadian trout stream who had to stab an attacking black bear with his fillet knife, type not stated in the account in, I think, Outdoor Life. Investigators soon found eight other human bodies in this bear's food cache! BTW, predatory bear attacks in North America most often involve black bears, not grizzlies. The fisherman in this case probably went for the "sticking place" in the bear's chest, about where the solar plexus might be, or the region of the heart. He lived, so his aim must have been good!

I do not believe the claim in, Maxim that Bigfoot has bone structure in the ankle area that enables them to run at an accelerated speed, compared to other biped primates.

I'm guessing that a shot into the nose might hit the brain, and be the most effective placement. But a heavy enough bullet at good speed might also make a heart shot possible, and other vital organs probably resemble those in humans. But if you shoot one in the back, be prepared for negative publicity, unless you can show that it was the only way to stop one attacking another human.

I have some Remington 165 grain loads in .357 Magnum that I got in case I might ever need to use a .357 on a bear or big pig. The bullets are structured for hunting; they are not just heavier versions of the 158 grain JHP's. I think one of those might achieve a brain shot on a Bigfoot, too. Or, the Speer 158 grain Gold Dot or Hornady's slower expanding bullets. One cop in a NYC zoo killed a polar bear with the lead Plus P HP .38 Special bullet in the chest. And I know of a Norwegian explorer a few years ago who killed an approaching polar bear with a S&W .44 Magnum. I think his had a four-inch barrel. It caused an outcry among idiots who wrote to, National Geographic compalining about the shooting. I think the man's life was more important.
 
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I have no idea how much money the government wastes on other studies. And I really don't care because there is nothing we can do. Accepting that, I don't mind one bit if they spend a little more on DNA testing. What we can't afford is the open ended studies on things like global warming.

I'd rather they spend the money on ammo for free distribution to gun nuts. That surely wouldn't be waste.
 
woodsltc said:
OK ..... Let's get ahead of the game a figure out what gun/caliber would be best for Bigfoot defense!! :D

Don
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For a mythical creature that doesn't exist, and i will remain a skeptic until one has been found,
lets create our own caliber,
lets take a S/W 500 cartridge and increase the lenth by a 3rd
and call it the 500 Bigfoot Magnum.
 
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jlrhiner said:
I'm in for the safari, but still worried about that whole "forest bride" thing. Promise you won't let them take me alive!:eek:
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I'm with you.
I'm savin' the last bullet for myself, lest I be VIolated!
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Looks like we have some true believer's
sorry guys if i dont show your enthusiasm, but with the millions of trail cams in the woods these days, Heck i cant even take a leak in the woods without a thorough check of the area these days,
and there's plenty of people that claim we have them here in Ky
But without hard evidence, and by that i mean a body,
i just cant make myself believe.
However i fully support your right to believe whatever you wish to.
 
Speaking of government funded studies, I read of one where some scientists got the government to give them money to see what would happen if they strapped glasses, which made everything look upside down, onto chickens and set the chickens loose to run around.

I think that is pretty impressive...
 
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