mac2
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I believe so, that's why they were given a referendum...
Scottish vote?
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I believe so, that's why they were given a referendum...
Rastoff
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Wow, I can't believe it would be that easy. The last time that happened here...well we're still arguing about it.
It is easy to bandy words about separation, but I wonder if the separatists have considered whether the border will change and how they will pay their part of the national debt. Then there is the work of building a new national infrastructure to replace what will be lost by separating.
smokey04
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ringo, Am I wrong, I thought Sean Connery was Welsh?Nick
mac2
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Many of those who want independence are stark raving leftists for whom the UK government in London isn't left wing enough. And it couldn't be because the majority of the British public wouldn't vote them in as was illustrated in the Labour party's hammering at the polls in the 1980s. The Labour party got back in once it had ditched things like punitive taxation, state ownership of all businesses (Clause 4) and unilateral nuclear disarmament. You'll probably find the separatists are staunch supporters of those three things the first and third they'll try and implement in an independent Scotland. They'll also likely hate the English just like the self-loathing English far left - the "Guardianistas" (and probably Americans and Israel for good measure).
THE PILGRIM
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The arguments will come up concerning who gets the oil money.
And how much debt does Scotland get.
I heard one expert say that nobody can of will stop the Scots from using the Pound. It'll just be foreign money. Panama still uses the dollar.
And we used the Spanish silver here for a hundred years.
Two bits, four bits, six bits a dollar.
All for your town , stand up and holler.
Where do you think that came from?
Pieces of eight cut into smaller pieces.
mac2
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They joined us through mutual agreement in 1707 (yes, Wikipedia I know, but it's a start) - something to do with getting access to trade in our colonies at the time, and Britain wanted defence against the French if they invaded Scotland, easier with political union:
Acts of Union 1707 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
cmort666
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How desperate is your situation when it's possible that your best option is to be part of a Monty Python skit on an endless loop?
Texas Star
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Connery is certainly a Scot, and he is in favor of partition.
I think his politics are pretty left, as with most actors.
I don't know if he'll renounce his knighthood if Scotland leaves the UK.
BTW, the actual James Bond character was, according to his creator Ian Fleming, half Scot and half Swiss. Scottish father, of course.
However, singer Tom Jones is Welsh, if that's of interest.
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I doubt that Scotland, with its current political leanings, would be an ally of the US. More likely they would turn to the other socialist countries in the world for support, which they will surely need. They could readily ally with France, who they have a long history with. I'm certain that Putin and crowd would be knocking on their door in an attempt to gain a foothold. I also understand the Union Jack would be no more, the Scottish blue and white would go. Interesting times folks, interesting times......
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Maybe those forces.....
Think maybe those forces gathering on the English side of the border might have something to say about it???
Think maybe those forces gathering on the English side of the border might have something to say about it???
JcMack
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If they separate that means Mel went thru all that pain for nothin.
LVSteve
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If the Scots vote yes there will be folk in England getting straight on their Ouija boards to a guy called Hadrian for advice on wall building.
So far, with two districts reporting, the No vote is ahead. My ancestral home of the Orkneys resoundingly voted No
CAJUNLAWYER
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They wouldn't even be having this vote if Longshanks was still around.
Texas Star
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Yeah, ol' Edward made 'em do what he wanted.
Hey: is a "No" vote one for staying in the UK? As in, "no" to independence?
I don't know how the ballot was worded.
Arik
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Correct. YES to separate or NO to separate
Scottish independence referendum - Results - BBC News
No means the Union stays intact. Yes means Scotland becomes an independant country.
No means the Union stays intact. Yes means Scotland becomes an independant country.
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Yeah, they do. I's 'Windsor' . They changed it in World War I. It had been Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, from Albert, Queen Victoria's husband. There was a lot of anti-German sentiment in Britain during the war.
The First Lord of the Admiralty was named Battenberg. He felt the pressure too, so just anglicised it to Mountbatten.
labworm
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