sd9ve guide issue
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It is not a problem. The Recoil Spring Assembly on all three of my SD9VE's looks much like yours. The base is pushed out a bit by the end of the last spring coil. If you seat the Recoil Spring Assembly with that spring end facing up toward the length of the barrel it reduces the distortion. Nothing is wrong with the assembly, and it will still function fine. If you are obsessing over it there are steel guide rods available from Wolff and Galloway.
Update: I just checked two New Recoil Guide Assemblies that I have in my parts kit. Both of them are distorted where the end of the lat spring coil presses against the base also. They have never even been in a gun. Again, in my opinion it's a non-issue.
Best Regards,
ADP3
Update: I just checked two New Recoil Guide Assemblies that I have in my parts kit. Both of them are distorted where the end of the lat spring coil presses against the base also. They have never even been in a gun. Again, in my opinion it's a non-issue.
Best Regards,
ADP3
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AnthemBassMan
Member
Mine looks the same way with zero issues with reliability. Someday I may spring for a steel guide rod, but it's not too far up the list. First thing I'll get for mine would either be a new read sight or the extended take down lever.
L8R,
Matt
L8R,
Matt
brchambersjr
US Veteran
It is fine. The only time that the base contacts the barrel is when you remove the slide so if it is still retaining it for field stripping it is ok. The rest of the time the base is seated in the little cup in the frame next to the take down lever and almost fully supported.
Bill
Bill
Well I sent an email to smith and wesson with a picture of the guide rod and they are really interested in seeing the gun even got a phone call so I'm gonna send it to them and see what happens hopefully it don't take for ever to get it back
Steelhat
Member
Just make sure that you set it back to stock when you send it to S&W. If you had put an aftermarket spring kit and or trigger in, take those parts back out because S&W will set it back to stock before they send it back to you.
brchambersjr
US Veteran
Both of mine look similar to yours and I just got my SD9VE back from S&W with the original guide rod in it. I would think that if this was a big concern that they would have changed it before they sent it back to me. I personally don't think it is an issue with mine since all it does is capture the spring for assembly and disassemble. Like I said before, once the slide is on the frame the spring is no longer resting against the barrel lug but seated in the frame and supported.
Bill
Bill
OKFC05
Member
There are 2 complaints about S&W designs repeated ad nauseum that set my teeth on edge:
1. "revolver turn lines are bad and should be eliminated". Fact: causes no harm and shows the revolver is timed properly for rapid fire.
2. "polymer guide rods are horrible and cause malfunctions": Fact: stock captive recoil spring assemblies in the SW/SD series are MORE reliable than non-captive aftermarket steel rod and piano-wire springs.
The Galloway captive steel rod and flat-wound spring assemblies are excellent products, but cost over 3 times as much as the stock assemblies. They do not last 3 times as long as stock, and failures of the stock assembly are rare, most stock units being changed based on perception, not function. In using Sigmas as loaners and trainers since they first came out, I have had NO recoil spring failures. I have changed them after many years "just because" and noticed a small chip out of one rod during cleaning after many years of use: it still functioned perfectly, but I replaced it anyway.
I keep spare recoil and trigger springs on hand as a precaution, and inspect springs as part of routine cleaning. The trigger spring is a higher failure rate item than the recoil spring.
1. "revolver turn lines are bad and should be eliminated". Fact: causes no harm and shows the revolver is timed properly for rapid fire.
2. "polymer guide rods are horrible and cause malfunctions": Fact: stock captive recoil spring assemblies in the SW/SD series are MORE reliable than non-captive aftermarket steel rod and piano-wire springs.
The Galloway captive steel rod and flat-wound spring assemblies are excellent products, but cost over 3 times as much as the stock assemblies. They do not last 3 times as long as stock, and failures of the stock assembly are rare, most stock units being changed based on perception, not function. In using Sigmas as loaners and trainers since they first came out, I have had NO recoil spring failures. I have changed them after many years "just because" and noticed a small chip out of one rod during cleaning after many years of use: it still functioned perfectly, but I replaced it anyway.
I keep spare recoil and trigger springs on hand as a precaution, and inspect springs as part of routine cleaning. The trigger spring is a higher failure rate item than the recoil spring.
kakarote9130
Member
Could the spring's plastic end be notched slightly to alleviate any more deflection?
AnthemBassMan
Member
Possibly. ButnI would refer to post #9. The stock spring/guide rod last for at least a few thousand rounds. Even then, it would probably be the spring weakening, not the guide rod itself failing...
L8R,
Matt
L8R,
Matt
ruthless robbie
Member
it will eventually break. the plastic is bending and all these "knowledgeable gun owners" in here that say everything is fine are eat up with ignorance.
#1 it's plastic
#2 it's bending from operation
#3 what does plastic do from being bent over and over again? it weakens and eventually breaks. there's no arguing or debating that, anyone that wants to argue or debate that bent/bending plastic will not weaken or break only proves my point that they're eat up with ignorance.
get a stainless guide rod from Galloway Precision, it's a direct fit and has 78 reviews on Amazon with a 5 out of 5 star rating.
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also I have a thread on this very topic with pictures also posted.
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brchambersjr
US Veteran
We are just giving our suggestions and opinions. Take it or leave it.
Bill
Bill
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