SD9VE magazine problems

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When I load the magazines to full capacity of 16 rounds, I have to use some strength to push the mag into the mag well for it to click into place. However, if I take 1 round out, leaving the magazine loaded with 15 rounds, it clicks into place rather easily.

I know the quick fix would be to just keep the magazines loaded with 15 rounds instead of their intended 16, however, I would like to know if there is any fix to this issue.

Does anybody else have the same problem?

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There is nothing wrong with your gun.
The quick fix is to load with the slide locked back.
Any semi-auto loaded with a closed slide requires you to compress another 1/2 cartridge diameter against the bottom of the slide.
Does not hurt anything, but you have to PUSH to lock it in.
If the magazine is not locked in, it typically falls free on the first shot, which is hilarious to everyone on the range except the one holding the gun.
 
There is nothing wrong with your gun.
The quick fix is to load with the slide locked back.
Any semi-auto loaded with a closed slide requires you to compress another 1/2 cartridge diameter against the bottom of the slide.
Does not hurt anything, but you have to PUSH to lock it in.
If the magazine is not locked in, it typically falls free on the first shot, which is hilarious to everyone on the range except the one holding the gun.

I was wondering because my M&P's, Glock's, and Springfield XDM's don't have this issue. So I was thinking it was specific to this gun.
 
There is nothing wrong with your gun.
The quick fix is to load with the slide locked back.
Any semi-auto loaded with a closed slide requires you to compress another 1/2 cartridge diameter against the bottom of the slide.
Does not hurt anything, but you have to PUSH to lock it in.
If the magazine is not locked in, it typically falls free on the first shot, which is hilarious to everyone on the range except the one holding the gun.
But you're still going to top off the mag and insert on a closed slide. 16 in the mag inserted under an open slide. Slide released, round loaded and slide closed. Remove mag and top off, back to square one. Or am I missing something
 
But you're still going to top off the mag and insert on a closed slide. 16 in the mag inserted under an open slide. Slide released, round loaded and slide closed. Remove mag and top off, back to square one. Or am I missing something

You don't HAVE to remove the mag and top off. I personally never do, because I shoot Production and SSP with 17 round magazines, and never load more than 11 anyway.

If you CHOOSE to top off, then be prepared for the hard load compressing another 1/2 cartridge diameter against the slide.

The standard manual of arms for pistol combat courses I have taken, and the Personal Protection courses I teach, is NOT to top off. Lock the slide back, insert a loaded magazine, and slingshot the slide. (Safety ON , if the gun has one). Holster, ready for action.
Been that way since the 1911 was introduced, and it is still the surest and quickest method with the M&Ps. In a crisis situation, there is no time to be topping off on reloads. When the slide locks open, drop the mag, insert a loaded mag, slingshot, ready to shoot.

One serious problem with any "just for the practice range" procedures is that we fight like we practice. That's why revolver shooters were found dead with a handful of empty cartridges: in practice, they caught the empties in their hands and put them in a range bucket.
 
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You don't HAVE to remove the mag and top off. I personally never do, because I shoot Production and SSP with 17 round magazines, and never load more than 11 anyway.

If you CHOOSE to top off, then be prepared for the hard load compressing another 1/2 cartridge diameter against the slide.

The standard manual of arms for pistol combat courses I have taken, and the Personal Protection courses I teach, is NOT to top off. Lock the slide back, insert a loaded magazine, and slingshot the slide. (Safety ON , if the gun has one). Holster, ready for action.
Been that way since the 1911 was introduced, and it is still the surest and quickest method with the M&Ps. In a crisis situation, there is no time to be topping off on reloads. When the slide locks open, drop the mag, insert a loaded mag, slingshot, ready to shoot.

One serious problem with any "just for the practice range" procedures is that we fight like we practice. That's why revolver shooters were found dead with a handful of empty cartridges: in practice, they caught the empties in their hands and put them in a range bucket.

I think we're getting way off track of the actual subject here.....

Does anybody have this same problem with their magazines? And if so, has there been any fix for it?
 
What I have found with any new mag is that you need to fully load them and let em sit for about a week. You have to break in those new springs.

I can't believe if you have Glocks and S&W's you don't have an Upula.
Best investment ever!
 
I have an SD9VE and I know exactly what the OP is talking about. Robbie, for months I would load the 16 rounds, chamber one and leave it be with 15+1, it's primarily my nightstand gun. I recently began topping off after chambering the first round. The mag spring will loosen up a bit more when it's in the gun at full capacity. Mine is not so resistant these days.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. Give it the 16+1 it was designed to hold and carry on.
 
What I have found with any new mag is that you need to fully load them and let em sit for about a week. You have to break in those new springs.

I can't believe if you have Glocks and S&W's you don't have an Upula.
Best investment ever!

I do have an Uplula, getting mags loaded to max capacity isn't the problem. The problem is when the mags are loaded to the 16 round max and I push the mag into the gun, it takes some strength to push it all the way into the gun to make it "click" or "lock" into place.

However, when I take just 1 round out of the magazine, then it will freely slide into the gun and "clicking" or "locking" into place.

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The fix for the issue is to simply use the mags a bit. The mags are stiff when new. Load them to capacity and let'em sit for awhile, then load them a few times with 15 rounds and shoot the gun.

You will find that the mags will take a set to the load and will become easier to load every time.

One more thing to do while they are still new -- unstead of holding the mag in you hand, put the bottom of the mag on a stout table and load it by pushing against the table instead of against your hand.

Given time, the mags will loosen and you'll pop 16 rounds in like Hickok45.
 
Does anybody have this same problem with their magazines? And if so, has there been any fix for it?

OK, let's talk mechanics of magazines.
ALL new SIGMA magazines, with 16 rounds inserted, are hard to load on a closed slide. If you think those are bad, try the 10 rounders, which are purposely blocked so it is impossible to put 11 rounds in the magazine, under penalty of law in the state. There is NO extra room left in the magazine.

As said above, the smart fix is DON'T try to load 16 on a closed slide with the new magazine. All springs take a set about 10% less than when new, and the springs will also settle in against itself with use, to make loading 16 easier. I don't let students load the magazine full, because I don't want them struggling with loading and forgetting safety practices.

Until high-capacity magazines became the rage, magazines were designed to leave a little room at the bottom so the spring did not tend to bottom out. But now, the new practice is to shorten the follower legs and put in more rounds, which leads to 2 things: more advertised capacity, and more spring problems. A 7 round 1911 mag becomes an 8 rounder, and a 13 round Hi Power mag becomes a 15 rounder: same magazine, different follower, more spring problems.

I have been using SW/SDs as loaners and trainers since they first came out, and you are better off NOT trying to load 16+1, especially with new magazines.

Want a quick mechanical fix to your magazines? Cut off the bottom coil of your magazine spring. You'll have plenty of room to load 16, and loading on a closed slide will be easier. DOWNSIDE: the spring will need replacing sooner, because of feeding problems with the last round.
 
Here is my solution to the problem....

Load the magazine to its full 16 round capacity. Insert magazine into the gun about 2/3 of the way. Then give the bottom of the mag a nice slap to get it firmly seated into the gun...


I have the same issue with my SD9VE. When the mag is fully loaded, it is a bit difficult to get it to click into place.... Thats why I slap it into place....
 
There is nothing wrong with your gun.
The quick fix is to load with the slide locked back.
Any semi-auto loaded with a closed slide requires you to compress another 1/2 cartridge diameter against the bottom of the slide.
Does not hurt anything, but you have to PUSH to lock it in.
If the magazine is not locked in, it typically falls free on the first shot, which is hilarious to everyone on the range except the one holding the gun.
This is what I do. I load the magazine to capacity, insert it into the pistol while the slide is locked back, then let the slide go. I don't worry about "topping" the magazine off...if I can't get it done with the rounds on board, then I'm in over my head. JMHO.
 
its not a problem. there is just so much pressure and so little room left in the magazine well when loaded with 16 that its difficult to compress until it breaks in a bit. My glocks and XD's appear to have just slightly longer magazine wells to ease the compression.

if you cant work with it, download it to 15 and go on. its not unusual for a 9mm to have a 15 round capacity afterall.
 
One of my magazines does this, the other is easy. Why??
I just load 16 rack it and leave it as is with one. The other I load 15, rack it, then add one back to the magazine .
 
springs may be weaker in one than the other. has one been loaded longer than the other?
neither should be "easy". you should have to exert some level of force to compress the spring that last little bit.

quite frankly, if both insert and lock in easily when the slide is locked back and perform perfectly when fired I would quit worrying about it.
 
if you just cant get past it - replace the mags or swap the springs out for new wolf springs or something.
 
One of my magazines does this, the other is easy. Why??
I just load 16 rack it and leave it as is with one. The other I load 15, rack it, then add one back to the magazine .

I think it's a tolerance issue. The mags seem to be cheap and not as firm. Looking at the back of the mags there is a seam where it's put together and it doesn't seem to be a high quality job. I'm going to assume you will have some meet tolerances and some a little out of tolerance.

I don't know if you recall but Glocks used to have polymer only mags, these mags over time would stretch so when you loaded them up fully and kept them that way the mags would swell and it would be the exact same issue that we're having with our SD9VE mags.

Now Glocks have metal reinforced mags so they hold firm and slide in and out of the mag well with no problem. The SD9VE also has metal mags but I just believe the mags are thinner metal and not put together as well from the factory so some will have the same swell issue when fully loaded.

Not to complain too much, I mean it's a $300 gun that comes with 2 mags brand new. I just think to save cost they skimped on some things that stand out on more pricey firearms.
 
The mags that come with the SD series fit multiple platforms, the idea that they slapped some mags together for this specific pistol is wrong. The metal in no way seems thin or cheap to me, they're actually quite robust.

The problem people are having is NOT a problem! Load em to the max and rock on. Just like any other mag that starts out being stiff, time and use will break them in.
 
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