SD9ve trigger pull

[Kencan]

Seems to always come up when discussing this gun. I like my stock SD as is but so many seem to change the trigger.

My question is, what weight pull are some wheel guns and even some 1911's? Are the significantly lighter than the SD9 or 40?

 

[SamMeow]

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Are the significantly lighter than the SD9 or 40?

In one word, YES.

I have an old 22 revolver- 12 lb DA/4.6 single.
A couple of Ruger semis:
LC9 has about a 6 lb and the SR9C has worked itself over time to a very smooth 4.8
The SD9Ve with about 1200 rds is just over 8 lbs

Whenever at the range, I always shoot lightest to heaviest trigger.
Bet you can figure out why.

 

[Bozz10mm]

1911s are usually around 5 lbs, significantly lighter than the SDVE that averages 8 lbs. I have shot the SD9VE and the trigger didn't seem that heavy. But when I measured it, it was indeed 8 lbs.

 

[ditto1958]

OP, I know this doesn’t directly answer your question, but the thing with the SD9VE trigger is not the weight, but the fact that it’s a long double action trigger. Tends to take a lot of practice to learn to shoot it well.

 

[Steve912]

Seems to always come up when discussing this gun.

It's a lower priced pistol, and an entry-level pistol for
a lot of new shooters. They read posts that say "it has
a terrible trigger", "it's awful" etc, repost it, and the
reputation takes on a life of it's own.

That, and sig file envy: if you don't have more mods
listed in your signature file than the next, you're uncool.

Two contributions given us by forums, that we could do
without.

 

[Skeptic 9c]

There is a point where you have to draw the line on trigger pull. Target / Defense / Military.

Target is for non-stressed shooting therefore light weight, clean break, Military is heavy because you may have to hold people at gunpoint and you want a deliberate pull. Defense is in between and varies.

In the large personal defense size budget guns the SD9 runs about 9 lbs, the competing Walther Creed about 4 lbs with a pre-cocked hammer system. (Yes I have one, when new it was about 5.5 lbs, but after 250 rounds and some dry firing it has a very consistant 4.0) My older SW9VE has a 14 lb trigger, despite previously described efforts, and is more of a military trigger.
Geoff
Whose 1911s are set and stable at 4.5 lbs, the Military standard minimum of the day, when 1911s were the standard.

 

[Papa_D]

A double action Revolver being shot in double action has a very long and significantly heavier trigger than the SD9 VE. SOME Double action/ Single action Semi-autos have a much longer and heavier DA trigger pull too. 10-12 lbs is not unusual on either type of action. The SD does not necessarily have a long and heavy trigger in the grand scheme of things. It is just slightly longer and heavier than the more "commercialized" striker fired guns on the market.

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[OKFC05]

My competition IDPA revolver has a double action pull of 7# and that is considered really good. My IDPA/SSP M&P 5" Pro has a well-used Pro trigger with a 4 1/4# pull and I consider that very good.


I have shot matches with Enhanced and Custom single action triggers with minimal takeup and overtravel and pulls as low as 2#.
I consider these good for precision target shooting ONLY and would not consider them for carry or general defense use.
Some very vocal people consider these the ideal and try to make every trigger as much like them as possible. "Just can't shoot right without them"


From experiences with students and a few IDPA shooters, some are "trigger yankers" who tend to move the gun and for them, the lightest shortest trigger helps mask poor technique. I have one serious student now who went all the way with mods to an M&P with a 3# trigger that he shoots OK in practice, but when the IDPA buzzer goes off, he starts yanking away and throwing shots even with it. Changing old habits can be difficult and frustrating.

 

[sd9boi]

OP, almost ALL DA revolvers can only go so low in trigger weight until stuff starts to go south. I've heard of S&W revolver triggers as low as 6# in DA mode, reportedly without misfires, etc. I've not SEEN this personally but they MAY exist. The nicest thing about a good DA trigger is it's SMOOTHNESS, not necessarily it's weight. With a very smooth trigger comes the PERCEPTION of LIGHTNESS !! The finest DA trigger I ever dry fired was a S&W M-10. The trigger FELT like about 6 or 7 #'s BUT it had unaltered FACTORY springs throughout !!! I was told that it was apx. 8.5-9 #'s !!! It was wonderful !!!

Lot's of shoooter's (IMHO) swap triggers in the SD (almost always) with the APEX unit. This gives the gun a "Glock-like" trigger, which, again, gives GREATER MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE over the stock S&W unit. I've handled other S&W's with the same trigger but MUCH lower trigger pull weights. They are WAY nicer than the stock SD trigger, but they're STILL a S&W "articulated" trigger. Lots of us don't like them. I believe this may be why they're SO popular. I'm toying with the APEX unit myself but with S&W FACTORY springs. I'll report when this happens. Just my 2 cents !! BTW, with repeated firing, the stock trigger DOES seen to smooth out to varying degrees !!! Just passed 6K through my SD and it does seem a bit smoother. Still quite accurate, fits my hand perfectly, etc. I like my SD !!!

 

[dsk]

The SD9VE is primarily marketed at first-time handgun buyers and/or those under severe cost constraints. Such people are less likely to have the Four Rules ingrained into their head or have much if anything in the way of training. A super-light trigger like that on a Walther PPQ would be a potential tragedy in the making. With an SD9VE trigger you have to actually mean it before you fire the weapon. That of course was the original idea of the Sigma and SW9 triggers as well, but they carried it a bit too far with their 11-14# triggers.

The factory trigger on an SD9VE may make it harder to do fast shooting at steel plates, but for actual defense use it's about ideal.

 

[GKC]

The factory trigger on an SD9VE may make it harder to do fast shooting at steel plates, but for actual defense use it's about ideal.

I agree...especially on a gun with no external safety. I wish S&W would make a SD45VE.

 

[Gordon11]

From reading threads, there must be a good bit of variation in SD9VE triggers. Mine breaks at 7 lbs after about 5/16" of travel. Many revolvers have double action pulls in the double digits. Dry fire a recent production out-of-box Centennial snubby and you'll think the SD9VE is light.

 

[spad124]

A double action Revolver being shot in double action has a very long and significantly heavier trigger than the SD9 VE. SOME Double action/ Single action Semi-autos have a much longer and heavier DA trigger pull too. 10-12 lbs is not unusual on either type of action. The SD does not necessarily have a long and heavy trigger in the grand scheme of things. It is just slightly longer and heavier than the more "commercialized" striker fired guns on the market.

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+1 on this comment. My SD9VE does not have an unusually long or heavy trigger pull compared to my DA revolvers. The SD trigger does seem to hit a wall just before trigger break, but that is smoothing out with firing. The heaviest trigger pull on any of my pistols/revolvers is on my M1917. It has to be close to 15 pounds. Plus my Sig P6 had a 14 pound trigger until I put in a P225 spring.

I'd shoot it so it wears in and then assess. You may not need a new trigger

 

[Walkingwolf]

The Colt Python had the reputation of a great trigger out of the box. It was a 8 pound trigger. IMO want a light trigger get a 1911, a SD is a defense gun Smith put a moderate long trigger pull for a reason. That reason might of been they did not want to get a Smith leg reputation.

 

[nimbly]

It's a lower priced pistol, and an entry-level pistol for
a lot of new shooters. They read posts that say "it has
a terrible trigger", "it's awful" etc, repost it, and the
reputation takes on a life of it's own.

That, and sig file envy: if you don't have more mods
listed in your signature file than the next, you're uncool.

Two contributions given us by forums, that we could do
without.

That is huge in the gun community. I carried Kel-Tec pistols for a long time, and I cant tell you how many people told me I was stupid for doing it. "They're cheap **** and jam all the time. Huh, mine never have. Well I heard... oh so it isn't an issue you've actually had? No..." There you go.

 

[ou1954]

Trigger issue

The factory trigger on an SD9VE may make it harder to do fast shooting at steel plates, but for actual defense use it's about ideal.

Strange experience today. Took my nephew to the range with my SD9VE. He had absolutely no trouble with it but I seemed to have an issue with reset. Several times I "Pulled the trigger" but it didn't fire. I had to consciously remove my finger from the trigger to get a round off.

The reason this comes to mind is that when I was qualifying for CCW on an outdoor range with metal target items I was having fun trying to fire rapidly and it was clear that I wasn't allowing reset.

(As a side issue, I brought the targets home and they look like we had used a shotgun instead of a rifle.)

 

[ditto1958]

Strange experience today. Took my nephew to the range with my SD9VE. He had absolutely no trouble with it but I seemed to have an issue with reset. Several times I "Pulled the trigger" but it didn't fire. I had to consciously remove my finger from the trigger to get a round off.

The reason this comes to mind is that when I was qualifying for CCW on an outdoor range with metal target items I was having fun trying to fire rapidly and it was clear that I wasn't allowing reset.


(As a side issue, I brought the targets home and they look like we had used a shotgun instead of a rifle.)

The SD triggers don’t reset until they’re pretty much all the way forward.