seeking info on inscribed M&P revolver used at 1919 Inter-Allied Games in Paris

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Friends,

I am stuck on a research project, and I need some help from experts.

A friend of mine, born in the 1920s, has owned the revolver shown in the photos below for "about 50 years." The owner doesn't have much use for computers, but with his consent I have been doing some research on this revolver. I've learned some interesting things, but I'm kind of stuck at this point. I hope that some of you might be able to fill in the gaps.

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The revolver is a Smith & Wesson M&P Fourth Change target revolver, 6-inch, SN 291XXX. It is in excellent condition. There is an inscription on the right sideplate, which you should be able to see clearly the photo. The inscription reads as follows:

Presented by YMCA
to
Orton B. Stauffer
306th Engineers
US Pistol Team
Inter-Allied Matches
France 1919

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S&W historian Roy Jinks tells me that this revolver was part of a shipment that went to the Springfield Armory in June, 1919. He said that the inscription was definitely NOT done at the S&W factory (note that the inscription is cut through the bluing, whereas S&W engraved guns and then finished them).

I then contacted the historian at the Springfield Armory Museum, who told me that such an inscription was definitely NOT done at the Springfield Armory during that era (although some engraving was done there during the 19th century). He said that in 1919, with respect to firearms supplied under contract from private companies, the Armory merely served as a way station for firearms on their way to their final destination.

I also confirmed, from documents available on the internet, the following information: First Lt. Orton B. Stauffer of the 306th Engineers won a silver medal in pistol competition at the Allied Expeditionary Force (A.E.F.) match held at a newly constructed range at D'Avours, a short distance from LeMans, France in May, 1917. It appears that many of the American service members who did well at that event were placed on an American team to participate in a much bigger international event, the Inter-Allied Games, which was organized by General Pershing in collaboration with the YMCA. (At that time, it appears, the YMCA was big into supporting shooting, at least military shooting --how times have changed>) The Games were held June 22-July 5, 1919, at "Pershing Stadium" in Paris, which was constructed especially for the event. However, the shooting competitions were again held at the range at D'Avours/LeMans.

I confirmed that Lt. Stauffer was on the U.S. team at the Inter-Allied Games. I didn't find evidence that he won any individual medal there, but the U.S. team apparently did very well, winning what has become known as the "Pershing Trophy," which since then has been presented to the annual winner of a military rifle competition called the National Trophy Team Match. The pistol team was present at Pershing Stadium on July 6 when General Pershing presented medals and trophies to the winners of the various competitions, in the presence of about 30,000 spectators (see photo below).

I also found documentation that by 1935, Stauffer was a captain supervising Civilian Conservation Corps camps. He left the Army after World War II, as a colonel. He died June 5, 1964, and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery. My amateur investigations found no evidence that he ever made any mark in the world of competitive shooting subsequent to the 1919 Inter-Allied Games, but I'm sure my research on this point was far from comprehensive.

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I found a Springfield Armory Museum page that contains interesting information about a special order by the Army of a later shipment of 50 M&P revolvers (serial range 386XXX), apparently very similar, for the 1920 Olympic games. This page quotes Captain Oliver F. Snyder, Ordnance Department, as saying, "This was the revolver used by the A.E.F. Pistol Team last year, and it has fully demonstrated its superiority over all existing models." The page is here: Springfield Armory Museum - Collection Record,
(Note, however, that Stauffer was NOT on the Olympic team, as far as I can tell.)

At this point, the biggest single question in my mind is about the inscription. I am wondering if the entire batch of revolvers was inscribed for the team members in the same fashion, and if so, who did it? In the alternative, it is possible that Lt. Stauffer himself hired a jeweler or someone else to inscribe this particular gun, or that somebody else did so before or after the match. I don't know how to nail this down except to find some collector who has another one of the other revolvers that were shipped to the members of the U.S. team at the Inter-Allied Games -- one of the 50, if there were indeed 50 -- to see if it has a comparable inscription. Are you out there?

Any other suggestions for reconstructing the history of this revolver would also be appreciated. Post comments or questions here, or send them to be via private message, however you feel most comfortable. Thank you in advance for any light you can shed.

(Note: I apologize that I did not notice and remove the pistol-rug fuzz in the chambers before I took the photo immediately below.)

Douglas Johnson
SWCA No. 2404

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I really admire the kind of research you are doing. I wish I had something to contribute. Good luck in your quest. My gtandfather, Richard L. Brandt, was a very active civilian compaetitive rapid fire pistol shooter in that era. It is a shame that more records aren't available.
 
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Hi
I think that the front sight has been changed it should have had a bead front sight.
because the rear sight has the U groove. I will attach a picture of a revolver that is
pretty close to yours and it has the correct front sight.
It was shipped in nov of 1919.
Jim Fisher

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picture of front sight.
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At one point, I owned two of these guns. s/n 291135 was used in the competition,
and 291196 was an over-run, and sold to a dealer in Binghampton, NY . I sold this
latter gun through the May 2004 Amoskeag Auction. Here is the catalog entry for
this gun. Note that the lanyard ring was factory, and suppossedly a part of the
government order.

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I think that the information in this ad came from the factory letter I had.

Mike Priwer
 
Mr. Priwer,

That is very interesting. Did SN 291135, the revolver that was used in the competition, have a "YMCA" inscription to an individual team member, such as that shown in my photograph above?

I don't suppose you still have a copy of that factory letter?

Douglas Johnson
 
Douglas

Neither gun had any engraving or inscription. I did have factory letters on both guns,
but was unable to locate copies of them the other day. I remember making copies
of letters before selling guns, so I will look a bit further.

Regards, Mike Priwer
 
inauguration of the 1919 Inter-Allied Games

Here is a photo of General John J. "Blackjack" Pershing and other dignitaries at the inauguration of the Inter-Allied Games (Paris, June 1919).

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Fascinating post. Thats why this forum is my favourite. I really enjoy the history behind the firearm, and it's owner. Sadly topic's like this are discouraged on the "other" forum. Best of luck in your quest. I'll certainly enjoy the results of your search. Keep it up!.;)
 
FWIW, I believe the engraved inscription was done by mechanical means,, a pantograph type apparatus,,and not hand cut.

Pantograph engraving and 3-D sculpting was in use at that time, having been so since the mid 1800's or so.

Just an observation, nothing more..
 
I do drag engraving and that gun is hand cut, you can tell two ways the guide lines and not the two "s" are slightly different as well as the curve on the "p" top.
 
I do hand engraving ,,it just looked like pantograph. The type with a rotating point,,not the drag point style.
There are many things in it that suggested to me it's mechanical, but I'll leave it at that.
A magnified view of the cuts would tell which it is I guess. Pantograph of the style I believe it is will show the rotation cutter marks in the lines.
I'm probably wrong,,just going by what I can see there..looks like little rotating cutter marks & stops at the end of a lot of the bars.
Might be hammer chatter marks instead on second look..


But what matter it makes,,I really don't know other than non-factory work which has already been decided for the most point.

Interesting history. I had not even known of that competition event before this.
 
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Hi
I think that the front sight has been changed it should have had a bead front sight.
because the rear sight has the U groove. I will attach a picture of a revolver that is
pretty close to yours and it has the correct front sight.
It was shipped in nov of 1919.
Jim Fisher

bmg60-albums-k-22-1948-mcgrivern-gold-bead-picture8221-img-0129.jpg

picture of front sight.
bmg60-albums-k-22-1948-mcgrivern-gold-bead-picture8312-front-sight.jpg
Jim,
I have to disagree.
I've had quite a few Targets in both 38 and 44 with that "Thin round top blade" as the factory called it. EVERY one of them also had a small U notch.

The pics below are the 1925 catalog.
Note that catalog says the "we can on special order supply arms with with either the thin round top blade, formerly standard on our target guns,..."
 

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Taking note of no S&W logo on the side-plate makes me think this maybe a replacement??
D R

1919-1920 is exactly the time when commercial guns are usually missing logos.
 
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Douglas
My Smith & Wesson Catalog D-1 dated August 1919 has an insert entitled "Highest Honors Individual Inter-Allied Pistol Match won with Smith & Wesson Revolver at LeMans, France June 27th, 1919.
It measures 5 3/4" x 9". On the inside it details the countries that participated in the shoot. The Individual Inter-Allied Pistol Match was won by Michael Kelly Master Engineer, Senior Grade 7th U. S. Engineers 5th Division, U. S. Army. The next page has a testimonial from Michael Kelly and has a cut showing the revolver. The picture is exactly like the one you have, including the front sight. It should put to rest the question raised about the thought it was replaced.
 
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