Are you kidding? Me, cheap is my middle name. I was lucky I bought ammo when it could be found at good prices, I don't make a lot of money but I watched for sales and found good places to order from. I have enough to get me through this shortage, and it will end. If people would stop buying at these bend over and get raped prices and more importantly stop doing business with these price gougers this **** would end.
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Hornady 9mm 115 gr Critical Defense 25/Box, $2.00 a round and in stock.
Hornady 9mm 115 gr Critical Defense 25/Box | Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore
Hornady 9mm 115 gr Critical Defense 25/Box | Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore
It's a crying shame that there is a 10 box limit. I'm thinking that most people would like too buy 40 or 50 boxes.
Larry$4.50 a round is not the "going price" but merely the asking price of a LGS taking advantage of their customers. This guy must have no buying power and cant get wholesale prices and he thinks little of his regulars to even make such a comment.
Bumpus13
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You know, a reasonable man would say that there's no such thing as "that's my parking space" or "what're you lookin' at" ammo.
ANY time you have to discharge your weapon in a fight is "serious times indeed"
If you find yourself cornered into using deadly force, then the cost of the ammunition in your gun is the last thing you need to be concerned with.
I'm going to assume you said that as an attempt at humor & that you're not a psycho, but that's not the sort of mindset we need to be putting in people's heads.
It's a crying shame that there is a 10 box limit. I'm thinking that most people would like too buy 40 or 50 boxes.
I know you are right..........
csurp34
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No warning shots!
They need to know that warning shots are availableb but will cost extra.
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I guess our sense of humor has had a "collective negative impact" because of the COVIDs. Joe
A couple of days ago I bought three boxes of my preferred 9mm SD ammo, the Federal HST 124gr +P Tactical. The boxes of 50 were $67 each. While certainly much more than they used to be, they were reasonable for today's nuttiness.
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Kinda sad when double the normal price is considered reasonable.
At the same time, I'd probably be willing to pay that much for .45 HST, if I could find it and had the money for it.
Father Joe
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Fortunately most of us don't burn through a lot of SD ammo.
Unless maybe you're in Syria, but in that case the taxpayers will buy the ammo.
Unless maybe you're in Syria, but in that case the taxpayers will buy the ammo.
I went just to see what you were referring to! I was expecting scantily clad females! But, I liked it anyway!!!!
You're absolutely right. However, it's reasonable compared to typical 9mm range ammo that is going for $40-$50 a box for 50 rounds. That's 4x-5x normal price.
18 months ago I bought a few thousand rounds from Federal at about $10 a box and Federal paid me a rebate! Now I have all these boxes with one end flap missing. I'm sure many of you can say the same thing.
I have boxes of the dreaded evil Winchester Black Talon that I bought decades ago when it was just rumored it was going to be pulled.
About half dozen each in .357 and 9mm that are marked at 9.99 and I know I paid less than that as a quantity discount.
Not planning on ever shooting it or selling it, but makes for a great conversation piece.
About half dozen each in .357 and 9mm that are marked at 9.99 and I know I paid less than that as a quantity discount.
Not planning on ever shooting it or selling it, but makes for a great conversation piece.
smoothshooter
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That may not be a fair assessment.
If the store sells ammo at something near the old prices, the ammo flippers will buy almost all of of up and resell it at a 300% markup in a few days or hours. These flippers have no overhead, no business utilities, employees to pay, or storefront rent to pay.
If anyone is going to make the extra profit I would rather see the retailer get it. Besides, his overall sales and profit are down anyway because of lack of inventory.
Old Corp
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If this remains 'the new normal', it may finally put to rest the endless debate about using handloads for SD.
Personally - I have zero qualms about it.
Personally - I have zero qualms about it.
I went just to see what you were referring to! I was expecting scantily clad females! But, I liked it anyway!!!!
Any other forum in the world, you could have said why.
Here, here!
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Thru my 2A activities I get around to most gun shows , and many LGS in my region , and have a fair handle on " Prevailing Market Prices " . Erase from your mind any thoughts about what something sold for in say 2019, that has as much as the price of buggy whips in 1910 . And from my good friends who happen to be FFL s , they are at the mercy of the availability and prices from their distributors . Since mid summer , my friend has had standing orders with every distributor , for any and everything that they have available , in ammunition or guns , and can only get trickles that sell almost as fast as he puts them on the shelf . Supplemented by purchasing Estate Lots , and trading guns for NOS ammo from people's stashes . He marks up similar $ amounts as pre- panic , and apologizes for what he has to change ( but he is on the low side of gun show prices ).
Of course prices vary by calibers , by the relative availability of that caliber, that week . .380acp is most expensive . Sometimes 9x19 , .40s&w , and .45acp are all similar , sometimes 9 mm is comparitively more in demand . .357Sig is the last caliber that had backlog of pre- panic availability , just now drying up , 10mm preceeding it by a cpl months . People looked at me funny , but I advised people starting their Handgun Journey to approach this backwards . I e , buy the ammo first , then buy a gun to match .
As broad rule of thumb , 20/25 round boxes of Premium SD ammo are in the same price range as 50 round boxes of generic " practice ammo " . Ammo selection will be whatever had recently been available on wholesale markets . You can generally find at least One flavor of " Defensive Ammo " in a particular caliber , If say you prefered Critical Duty , but the available supply that week was Gold Dot or Ranger , you'd just have to have a sense of humor .
Down to the nitty gritty : the current mid range of Gun Show prices is $50 give or take for either 50rd FMJ or small box of Premium . Anything under $45 is Bargain priced , $60 for .380 or Super Premium 9mm is not uncommon . ( My ethical buddy @ his LGS ? All depends on his wholesale cost . Within the previous month in 9x19 FMJ has been $28 for PPU to $38 for Sig Elite . And gaps inbetween with zero 9mm on the shelf .)
It s@@@@ , but at the moment , It Is What It Is .
[ Disclaimer - Yes , XYZ website might have had EFG ammo for low low price . Huge distributors and Big Boxes sometimes have long term contracts with Mfgs with fixed prices and delivery dates . But when they go on websites at those prices , they typically sell out in minutes , often faster than prospective purchasers can checkout their Cart . If your lifestyle is adaptable to spending your waking hours in front of a computer poised to react, you have opportunity to either Stack Deep , or instantly double your money .]
But never mind the Ammunition , the real unobtanium are Primers . 209 Shotgun primers held out for most of 2020 , but Sm Rifle and Sm Pistol sell for about the same price as cocaine . Most recently I found the complete CCI line of primers available ....... For $30 per Hundred ! A few gun show vendors charge scalper prices for full lines of powder , but various LGS typically are at either pre- panic , or only modest increase , albeit for deep catalog combo shotgun/ pistol powders or very slow rifle powders , and week by week the variety gets slimmer .]
Of course prices vary by calibers , by the relative availability of that caliber, that week . .380acp is most expensive . Sometimes 9x19 , .40s&w , and .45acp are all similar , sometimes 9 mm is comparitively more in demand . .357Sig is the last caliber that had backlog of pre- panic availability , just now drying up , 10mm preceeding it by a cpl months . People looked at me funny , but I advised people starting their Handgun Journey to approach this backwards . I e , buy the ammo first , then buy a gun to match .
As broad rule of thumb , 20/25 round boxes of Premium SD ammo are in the same price range as 50 round boxes of generic " practice ammo " . Ammo selection will be whatever had recently been available on wholesale markets . You can generally find at least One flavor of " Defensive Ammo " in a particular caliber , If say you prefered Critical Duty , but the available supply that week was Gold Dot or Ranger , you'd just have to have a sense of humor .
Down to the nitty gritty : the current mid range of Gun Show prices is $50 give or take for either 50rd FMJ or small box of Premium . Anything under $45 is Bargain priced , $60 for .380 or Super Premium 9mm is not uncommon . ( My ethical buddy @ his LGS ? All depends on his wholesale cost . Within the previous month in 9x19 FMJ has been $28 for PPU to $38 for Sig Elite . And gaps inbetween with zero 9mm on the shelf .)
It s@@@@ , but at the moment , It Is What It Is .
[ Disclaimer - Yes , XYZ website might have had EFG ammo for low low price . Huge distributors and Big Boxes sometimes have long term contracts with Mfgs with fixed prices and delivery dates . But when they go on websites at those prices , they typically sell out in minutes , often faster than prospective purchasers can checkout their Cart . If your lifestyle is adaptable to spending your waking hours in front of a computer poised to react, you have opportunity to either Stack Deep , or instantly double your money .]
But never mind the Ammunition , the real unobtanium are Primers . 209 Shotgun primers held out for most of 2020 , but Sm Rifle and Sm Pistol sell for about the same price as cocaine . Most recently I found the complete CCI line of primers available ....... For $30 per Hundred ! A few gun show vendors charge scalper prices for full lines of powder , but various LGS typically are at either pre- panic , or only modest increase , albeit for deep catalog combo shotgun/ pistol powders or very slow rifle powders , and week by week the variety gets slimmer .]
