Self Defense "Lite" 9 mm Ammo

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As a rookie in the CCW world I have yet to decide on ammo for my Shield 9. I was sold a box of Hornady Critical Duty with my Shield purchase. Hornady makes Critical Defense Lite, a 100 grain bullet, designed for lightweight personal protection/compact guns.

What say you about Critical Defense Lite for the Shield 9?

On paper it makes sense.

Thanks.
 
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I don't like any bullet lighter than 124gr. in the 9x19mm, and prefer the 147gr. I use the Winchester White Box 147gr. JHPs in my Glock 19. They're accurate, easy to control, and test well for both penetration and expansion. And at least they used to be very reasonably priced.
 
Light ain't right. Do you want to hit them with a ping-pong ball or a golf ball, both being the same relative caliber.
 
I think you'll find that most here are fans of 124 or 147 grain rounds for 9mm. I see no need for a "light" round for the Shield, or any similar sized 9mm. Personally, I carry Hornady Critical Duty (135gr) in my shield and am very happy with it.

My suggestion would be to run a magazine of what they sold you through your gun at the range, followed by a magazine of Hornady Critical Defense, and see which you shoot best.

Though my 1st choice is Critical Duty there are several other great premium rounds out there:
Federal HST 124gr., Speer Gold Dot 124gr, Winchester PDX1 147gr. I keep boxes of each stored away. Happy shooting, and remember...
 
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I suspect who ever sold you the pistol either had a lot of the ammo they gave you or what they gave you was what they had (ammo scarcity and all).

Shoot it up.

Almost ant ammo is better for sd, if it's heavier than 115 gr.

Just my opinion, of course.
 
I'd be wary of any "light" loads in a small 9mm like that unless you're reducing the springs specifically for ease of use and shooting that specific ammo. Otherwise it will likely not be especially reliable as smaller pistols tend to be more sensitive to changes in ammo pressure/power with their smaller slide mass and critical spring balances.
 
The Critical Defense line has largely been a good performer in ballistic tests; Hornady seems to have done their homework with CD for its intended purpose -- civilian personal defense where barriers are less likely to be an issue.

There's usually a knee jerk reaction against light grain rounds and with some sound reasoning behind it, depending on the specific load, but if CD "lite" turns out to be the round you, your hand and your Shield "like" best (accuracy, reliability, recoil), don't be dissuaded from sticking with it -- that round can get the job done if you do your part.

All handgun rounds are compromises between competing factors; none is ideal, much less magic. A lighter round will sacrifice "punching power", but possibly in the service of easier, more accurate repeat shots.

Continue your research -- especially focused on ballistic tests, performance in actual shootings, and what law enforcement agencies are using, in combination with running different, quality defense loads through your Shield and determining between these factors what works best for you.

It's easy to fall down the rabbit hole of searching and worrying over the perfect round; don't. At the end of the day, any modern defense round from a reputable maker that's confirmed by you to be accurate and reliable in your pistol, and controllable by you, will be enough.

What's more important is your practice and your proficiency.
 
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I use the CorBon 115 gr ammo. Good velocity from short barrels. I have killed varmints with this load and it works well. Check the videos on it.

Whatever you use, shoot at least 100 rounds through the pistol to be sure it will function 100%.

The smaller pistols have a bit more recoil so special light loads are made. If you cant handle the recoil of the heavier bullets, then what you can hit with is more important. Better a hit with a standard load than a miss with a +P+.
 
I've always figured having ammunition that shoots to point of aim in my guns to be more important than the weight of the bullet. That means you may have to try many different brands and weights until you find the most accurate and precise load for an individual gun. It also means you get to spend some much needed and enjoyable range time to do "research".
 
I carry Corbon 147 grain +P JHP in my Shield...sometimes older 147 grain Silver Tip just because I have some.

124 grain Remington Golder Sabre is also a favorite 9mm cartridge of mine.
 
the cor-bon in 115 +p is a fine choice. i love the old winchester silvertips in 115. i also love powerball in the 95 grain. its fast as heck and does the job just fine. heavy is better for carry but lighter is nicer for carry...
 
Lots of good advice above.
Here's a practical tip: Get your practice ammo and defense ammo in the same bullet weight so you will shoot it enough to get good.
I have met too many people with a defense gun and "the ultimate extreme zombie smasher whatzit ammo" and have yet to shoot their first 100 rounds. The only bullets that count are the ones that hit, and only the right kind of practice will get you there.
A quick test for "lite defense loads" is put one in the magazine, fire it weak-hand-only, and see if the slide locks back. If it does not, I would not consider carrying it.
The most important thing about the equipment is to work 100%; for the shooter it is to HIT the target, first time, every time.
 
Hornady makes Critical Defense Lite, a 100 grain bullet, designed for lightweight personal protection/compact guns.

What say you about Critical Defense Lite for the Shield 9?

On paper it makes sense.

Thanks.

I did not think that load was made for lightweight or compact guns, but for the recoil sensitive.

Were it me, I would just use a bullet in the range of the bullet weights that seem to function best in 9mm pistols, which are bullets in the 115 to 147 grain range.
 
I thought I learned from my last 9mm thread, which I just up and walked away from mid argument, not to make comments on another 9mm thread, but here I am again.

Yes, do your research. Take a look at HST and Gold Dot's info, look at every professional and amateur guy doing ballistics tests, and they will show that 115 grain bullets, even bonded, even with +p, even with +p+, are inferior to 124 up to 147 grains bullets. 115 grain hollow points were a favorite at one time, but all of this was based on bad science, like the old 20% gel tests, and those who believed in "standard" power handgun rounds producing hydrostatic shock. These ideas have been thrown to the curb a long time ago, with the modern 10% gel tests, and the accepted fact that 9mm, 40, and 45 just don't have the moxy to create shock damage, and the bullets will only create crush cavities from the physical crush of the bullet itself. The 115's waste their energy creating valueless shallow temporary cavities, and both penetrate and expand poorly. The same reason why they were thought to be magic back in the day is also the reason why they are actually very, very poor rounds.

People who support 115 grainers are still basing it on the old debunked tests, on anecdotal evidence ( I knew a guy who was killed with a brick once, so it must be a great self defense choice to carry) and Marshall and Sanow's complete load of worthless psuedo science. 115 grain bullets have a wonderful reputation; if you consider fragmentation and under penetration to be strong points. Many people who talk about the success the rounds had in law enforcement often don't talk about the fact that 115 silver tips and other law enforcement bullets also fragmented, a lot. One of the reasons why bonded ammunition has become the rage is because fast, light bullets like the old 115 HP's had a nasty reputation for disintegration, and bonding was needed just to ensure they would not fail on a very consistent basis.

Long story short, there is no reason to shoot anything lighter than a 124 grain. Simply none at all. The 115 is a poor performer, and uses, or shall I say wastes, its energy and potentiality in the wrong ways, and anything lighter is a gimmick. The truth is, .38 special and 9mm have had their share of failures in their long and venerable histories, and many of those failures were due to poor bullet selections. Choosing a 115 instead of a heavier bullet may not just decrease performance, it may very well lead to under penetrations and failures that may fail to stop a threat, which is the whole purpose of carrying a weapon.

Does the extra bullet weight actually cause THAT much recoil difference? Will you actually notice the 90-150 grains you will save on the weight of your carry system? Defending the 115 grain may have been somewhat credible, back in 1980, but it has no place in the modern age.
 
I Defending the 115 grain may have been somewhat credible, back in 1980, but it has no place in the modern age.

Sweet. I'm going to pack 4 boxes of Winchester 9mm 124 gr Nato in the bag tomorrow for my qualifying exam for my final test to get my CCP.

:D
 
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My SD load in the Shield 9 is Federal HS 124gr JHP, or Gold Dot in 124 or 147.

S&W CAS told me that the expected load for the Shield was 124 gr.

I have recently found some Remington UMC 115gr JHP that shoots hotter than the FMJ, but I have no measurements to support my opinion. As it is no more expensive than range ammo, I'm buying it as such while it is available.
 

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