bill skebeck
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I own two S.W. pistols a 22 cal. new in the box k206638 grips have know ser. no. on grips. a 38spec. mp new in the box grips have no ser. no. on grips c187704 is this unusual ?
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Both of these are old enough to have the SN stamped on the inside right stock panel. Are they the smaller (service or Magna) style? The larger Target stocks would not be numbered.
Absalom
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
I'm not up on my stock history, but are factory-original target stocks on an early 50s C-series M&P even a thing? Wouldn't they be non-original per se?
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)I bet pictures of these NIB revolvers would go over pretty big around here...
I'm not up on my stock history, but are factory-original target stocks on an early 50s C-series M&P even a thing? Wouldn't they be non-original per se?
(Perfectly willing to learn something
Well, there is NIB because the owner personally picked it up from the gun store just after they were shipped (the .38 M & P in 1950 and the K-22 in 1952), and NIB because the seller told him so well after those years, if you get my drift. Not doubting the OP but looking forward to the photos, especially of the insides of the stock panels
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Here is the rub. Target stocked Masterpiece revolvers do not fit in the original 4 hole corner stapled factory box. Possible that they may have been shipped separately or in the box not attached to the gun. If the OPs 22 was shipped with regular Magna stocks, they would have been stamped with the serial number, but if the factory threw in a set of targets, most likely they would not have been stamped, since targets would not have had to be fitted to the frame. I am guessing that Masterpiece revolvers were shipped in a standard box with Magna stocks and if the buyer wanted target stocks, a set would have been sent as extra. Also, many large gun shops may have ordered many targets and sold them over the counter.
I have brought this up in the past, and one example of an oversized 5 hole corner stapled plain box with a Masterpiece end label showed up. It appeared that it could have been a factory repair return box for an N frame, but the issue has never been resolved. The pictures below show Masterpiece revolvers not fitting in their gold boxes. How or if they were shipped with target stocks is still a mystery. Hope the OP takes some pictures with the guns in the boxes.
I have brought this up in the past, and one example of an oversized 5 hole corner stapled plain box with a Masterpiece end label showed up. It appeared that it could have been a factory repair return box for an N frame, but the issue has never been resolved. The pictures below show Masterpiece revolvers not fitting in their gold boxes. How or if they were shipped with target stocks is still a mystery. Hope the OP takes some pictures with the guns in the boxes.
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Targets Guy
US Veteran
I bought a .38 Combat Masterpiece with the original box. After I put target stocks on them it would no longer fit in the box.
Sample of one.
Sample of one.
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bill skebeck
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They do not have target grips on pistols. original factory grips, pistols are new in the box never been fired. NO CAMERA
They do not have target grips on pistols. original factory grips, pistols are new in the box never been fired. NO CAMERA
The wood stocks at that time were individually sanded and fitted to each gun toward the beginning of the assembly process, and the serial number was stamped on them so they would make it back onto the gun toward the end of assembly. It was not a perfect process so un-numbered, perfectly fitted stocks on original guns have been reported. Enjoy!
Absalom
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
Hmm. Don't know a thing about .22's, but the 1951 M&P should definitely have the serial (I think without prefix) stamped into the back of the right stock panel if the stocks are original to the gun from birth.
But how would we know they were original "original"...?
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