Mod10
US Veteran
I notice a lot of people blur out the serial numbers when they post pics of their firearms on the internet. Is it a matter of privacy concern?
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feralmerril
Absent Comrade
Yes. Probley its not a real threat, but I suppose many of us have bought guns from private indivigals and maybe in the back of our minds maybe we wonder if it could have been stolen maybe 3 transactions before we bought it from even a trusted friend. Far as questions or whatever on the gun, maybe for a date of manufactor inquire, most of us will describe the last numbers with Xs, like its a model 19-2 serial # 21xxx.
Something that has happened in the past, people with a total lack of morals would see a gun, see the serial number and file a report with their insurance company that the gun was missing from their house at some time in the past. Since they were not reporting it to the police, there is not a filing false police report. Since the caliber and serial number match, there is nothing to indicate fraud. The insurance company pays off for a couple of missing guns. Nothing is usually put in the national computers by law enforcement, the gun is not stolen. The homeowner get a few hundred bucks from two missing guns that he never owned.
Misplaced/lost firearms can be entered into NCIC.
The Gun Entry (GENT) function in NCIC normally associated only with stolen firearms is also used for 'lost' firearms.
There is a trailer on the hit that indicates the gun entered was 'reported lost or misplaced' to the reporting agency.
I'd suspect very few misplaced/lost firearms ever get reported and entered though.
I know of a couple that were high grade shotguns left behind on a hunting trip,,later recovered and can only remember a few hits that ever showed 'lost/misplaced' on them.
The Gun Entry (GENT) function in NCIC normally associated only with stolen firearms is also used for 'lost' firearms.
There is a trailer on the hit that indicates the gun entered was 'reported lost or misplaced' to the reporting agency.
I'd suspect very few misplaced/lost firearms ever get reported and entered though.
I know of a couple that were high grade shotguns left behind on a hunting trip,,later recovered and can only remember a few hits that ever showed 'lost/misplaced' on them.
m657
Member
re: " The insurance company pays off for a couple of missing guns. Nothing is usually put in the national computers by law enforcement,"
My own ins. co required a copy of the filed police report of theft before they would process a claim.
My own ins. co required a copy of the filed police report of theft before they would process a claim.
celticfisherman
Member
Mine too. A few years back my truck was broken into and a couple of cheap dove guns stolen. Less than $1000 but I had to have incident reports and everything. Including a reciept to get full value of the guns.
Ogandydancer
Member
Question; can John Q Public enter guns into NCIC base? If so how?
No, NCIC is the domain of L/E only. Entry and search of the data base is restricted to appropriate agencys and each is assigned an ORI # that tags that agency with the responsibility of it's entrys as well as its deletions and modifications to data.
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Alk8944
US Veteran
Possibly has happened, but other than that everything else is incorrect.
Insurance companies require a Police report be made before a theft claim will be paid. Filing a false report with your insurance company IS a criminal offense, it is called Insurance Fraud, at least attempted, and is prosecutable. One of the reasons a Police report is required is specifically because the gun will be entered in NCIC, which greatly increases the likelihood of recovery.
In case you wonder, I am a retired LEO, and have been in the insurance industry for the 19 years since I retired.
