sexting: parents of teens beware!

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The wonders of technology, and the new problems they create.

Kids today are now "sexting" in ever increasing numbers. This is the word being used to define kids, many as young as 12, taking nude or partially nude photos of themselves, either alone or posing with friends- and sending them over their cell phones. The few who are studying this are estimating that as many as 1 in 5 kids between 12 and 14 years old has done this already. Now, lets face it: kids this age are sex curious to varying degrees. They are going to talk about it and explore in ways. Hopefully not too severely! And being the young teens they are, they are going to often be very influenced by their peers, and very impulsive, doing things without thinking about or understanding the potential consequences. The problems are compounding:
3 12 year old girls take off their tops, and standing sideways they take a cell phone profile-portrait in the bathroom mirror at one of their houses after school 1 day.
They send the picture to a few friends in their class. In an hour or 2, the entire football team has the picture, then the entire senior class, some of who are 18 and not minors. Many of them didn't ask for the picture, it was sent by a friend with a "hey look at this!" message. Including the 18 year old seniors.
Sometimes they end up on the web.
Parents get called a day or 2 later by the school for an emergency meeting: they are told we have a partially nude picture of your daughter which has been released via cell phone to the world, do you want to see it? The schools have no choice, this being the era of lawsuits, but it doesn't always prevent them. A damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. What parent wants to see a nude cell phone picture of their 15 year old daughter that she herself took? And then sent around to her inner circle of friends?
Then sometimes the police come in. This is where is gets interesting and pretty iffy. Total new ground here. If an investigation gets done, they of course look for intent: why did you send Billy that picture? because he asked me to is one typical answer, or because I thought it would be funny. This is of course the answer from 1 of the girls who took the picture of themselves in the mirror. The law is still trying to determine what to do with these cases, often on a state by state basis, or county by county: is it child porn or not? The charges being filed are quite varied, when they are filed at all. Nobody is sure this time. If a 12 year old takes a picture of herself without a blouse or bra on, then sends the picture over her cell to a couple of her friends, is this distributing child pornography? And much more to the point, what is going to be accomplished by filing charges of this nature against a 12 or 14 year old?

I work with this age group every day in a public school system. If you have teens, who have cell phones, be aware of what they might be involved in, or become involved in. Even indirectly. The police can show up, and tell you that your 17 year old son received 3 nude pictures of underaged girls on his cellphone, and let the trouble begin to rain down. This sort of scenario has happened to parents already.
 
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The wonders of technology, and the new problems they create.

Kids today are now "sexting" in ever increasing numbers. This is the word being used to define kids, many as young as 12, taking nude or partially nude photos of themselves, either alone or posing with friends- and sending them over their cell phones. The few who are studying this are estimating that as many as 1 in 5 kids between 12 and 14 years old has done this already. Now, lets face it: kids this age are sex curious to varying degrees. They are going to talk about it and explore in ways. Hopefully not too severely! And being the young teens they are, they are going to often be very influenced by their peers, and very impulsive, doing things without thinking about or understanding the potential consequences. The problems are compounding:
3 12 year old girls take off their tops, and standing sideways they take a cell phone profile-portrait in the bathroom mirror at one of their houses after school 1 day.
They send the picture to a few friends in their class. In an hour or 2, the entire football team has the picture, then the entire senior class, some of who are 18 and not minors. Many of them didn't ask for the picture, it was sent by a friend with a "hey look at this!" message. Including the 18 year old seniors.
Sometimes they end up on the web.
Parents get called a day or 2 later by the school for an emergency meeting: they are told we have a partially nude picture of your daughter which has been released via cell phone to the world, do you want to see it? The schools have no choice, this being the era of lawsuits, but it doesn't always prevent them. A damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. What parent wants to see a nude cell phone picture of their 15 year old daughter that she herself took? And then sent around to her inner circle of friends?
Then sometimes the police come in. This is where is gets interesting and pretty iffy. Total new ground here. If an investigation gets done, they of course look for intent: why did you send Billy that picture? because he asked me to is one typical answer, or because I thought it would be funny. This is of course the answer from 1 of the girls who took the picture of themselves in the mirror. The law is still trying to determine what to do with these cases, often on a state by state basis, or county by county: is it child porn or not? The charges being filed are quite varied, when they are filed at all. Nobody is sure this time. If a 12 year old takes a picture of herself without a blouse or bra on, then sends the picture over her cell to a couple of her friends, is this distributing child pornography? And much more to the point, what is going to be accomplished by filing charges of this nature against a 12 or 14 year old?

I work with this age group every day in a public school system. If you have teens, who have cell phones, be aware of what they might be involved in, or become involved in. Even indirectly. The police can show up, and tell you that your 17 year old son received 3 nude pictures of underaged girls on his cellphone, and let the trouble begin to rain down. This sort of scenario has happened to parents already.
 
IIRC it's not child porn if there's no sexual act. I certainly wouldn't want to be the parent of any kid in these situations, but I don't think it's criminal without the sex act, actual or simulated. One sticking problem for LE has been the requirement that the image must in fact be a real child, not a computer generated image. With the level of computer generation these days pornographers can have very realistic looking child sex acts but since they are not real children the images are not child porn.
 
The girls wore girdles when I was in HS. Born too early.
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Originally posted by rimfired:
The girls wore girdles when I was in HS. Born too early.
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..it was fun snappin' their garters though...THAT...would get you incarcerated these days...
 
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I was just kidding of course. Kids will always find new ways to get in trouble, won't they ? Shoo
 
Originally posted by shooboy:
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I was just kidding of course. Kids will always find new ways to get in trouble, won't they ? Shoo
Yes, and then many years later they have trouble buying longarms in NYS.
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Originally posted by mnhntr:
my question is what responsible parent gives a 12 yr old girl a cell phone

All sorts of 12 year olds have them, even more 14 year olds. Based on what I see, I'd guess that 20% of the 6th graders have them, and probably 50% or better of the 8th graders.
Perpster gets it. Your 17 year old son becomes a convicted sex offender, can't own a gun, can't get a job, etc., has to register every 4 months for life. All because of something he might not even have been involved in, for something someone sent to him without his consent on a cell phone. Some prosecutors have common sense, but many others don't, or don't care, and they won't be labeled as 'soft on crime' when its election time. Here is a question to think about: in how many locales can a 15 or 16 year old be treated as an adult for the felony of "distributing child pornography"?
This is what is happening to our kids in some places right now.
We should get rid of picture phones.
 
I'll bet the number one Christmas or Birthday present to kids is a new cell phone. Kids love technology and right now phones are "kool" like they have never been in the past. Texting is probably used far more often than the actual call on the phone.

And parents like the ability to be in contact with their kids. It is very handy and quite helpful to be able to get in touch with your kid whenever you need or want to do so.

Something like this just happened in an area school here. However, in this case some additional pictures were added to the mix by a PARENT. Bad enough in the first instance, but throw this new wrinkle in there and it is very troubling. Especially when this stuff gets sent to innocent kids that have no idea or do not want this crap on their phones. What a mess... Though in the case of this adult that tangled up in this the text records do make for great evidence for his arrest and hopefully a solid conviction at trial.
 
I was wondering why my 16-year old son wasn't responding to my text messages. I suppose he couldn't find them among all the "good" stuff.

I just texted him and told him not to ever forward that stuff if he should receive it and to delete it immediately because it's a felony.
 
Horny teenagers isn't really a new problem is it?

I was just about to trumpet the alarm about that wicked pernicious invention, the automobile, which allows teens to travel off together in private to do who knows what!
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Good Lord, folks. First of all, it's not as if this silly nonsense hasn't been in the newsmedia for the last year or so. I know there's been a recent upswell in news stories on the topic, but I'd sure like to think that folks here were more able to discern true problems from distract-the-masses hysteria promulgated by the Masters of the MSM.
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If you're a parent who hasn't heard about this already, then you might consider paying more attention to the outside world. And if you're a parent whose kid is involved in this, well, I guess that everyone is an idiot sometimes.

Aren't there many worse horrors with which parents should be concerning themselves? And, for those kids who are such idiots that they think sending nude pix of themselves out into the aether is a good idea (and these are kids who were raised with the 'net, so they have an idea of how little privacy there is on such things), perhaps a little humiliation now will be a good lesson. As far as the felony charges, well, now there's a little "real world" wake-up call, isn't it?

I don't know why this concerns the schools at all - the schools don't issue cell phones. How is it their problem?

I just don't see the need for the alarum . . .
 
I was just about to trumpet the alarm about that wicked pernicious invention, the automobile, which allows teens to travel off together in private to do who knows what!
Yup! There already have been several coeds who regret that they stayed too long in the rumble seat!

Seriously, technology can't be stopped. I suspect the best anyone can do is have a frank talk with his or her kids about the sheer stupidity of posting a nude picture of oneself onto the Internet, where it just might remain forever.

FWIW, there already have been cases of female teachers doing this sort of thing on their own time -- and they sure as hell all were old enough to know better.

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I don't know why this concerns the schools at all - the schools don't issue cell phones. How is it their problem?

You wouldn't believe all the blame that is put on teachers for everything the kids do in school, on the way home, etc. Yet they really have no authority to deal with it.

If it can be shown that the girls sent the nude pictures from the school bathroom, the school could be sued and the teacher suspended.
Locally, a teacher was sued by the parents of a bully for stopping the bully from pounding on another student.

As an adjunct teacher at the local J.C., I sat through a long-winded briefing to all teachers on what we were suposed to do to aid students in various emergency situations. After the administrator finished, I asked him if he knew half his policies were contrary to state laws and suggested he run them by the school attorney.
He was shocked to find I was right.
 
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