Shield 9 vs. Kahr CW9

[McE]

Move down to the CM9/PM9 and I think the Kahr pulls ahead. The Kahrs are a hair thinner than the Shield.
I find my PM9 is actually a pocketable pocket gun whereas the Shield is large enough to not be. Your pocket may vary.

 

[lrmnut]

My Kahr was $300 even (NIB from Woodbury Outfitters), free shipping, $10 transfer fee upon arrival from an online auction. If you didn't know, the CW9 is the economy model Kahr.

The Shield was $519 + tax at a local gun shop.

That's how I figure the Kahr was $200 cheaper.

And, yes, considering what the Shields are going for nowadays (I've seen online auctions asking as much as $700 for them - no way I would pay that), I could sell it and make a profit...but I follow advice from Jeff Cooper I read a long time ago...I don't sell guns, because when you do the gun is gone and sooner than later so is the money you got for it.

You got great deal on the Kahr I had the same gun (great gun)
but you payed way to much for the Shield I can buy them all day long for $375 and you are right the Kahr has a better trigger
except the length of travel before engaging so I still like the Shield right out of the box JMO.

 

[hardluk1]

I also prefer a cw9 to a shield . I started as a DA /SA revolver shooter and carried a DA snubby for 19 years so a kahr is a natural progression for a first concealed carry semi-auto . I also have cm9 for work carry but with retirement I found I preferred the larger tp40 and now a ct45 over smaller handguns and gave my cw9 to a daughter for CCW . Wife edc is a m&p9c and she has a 9mm CORE and I got to do the break in on both . I had m&p full size I bought as a post hand surgery EDC but gave it to a daughter after shooting a sig p320 and unless my hands grip control improves a bit more I will continue to CC a p320 compact but with the purchase of a kahr ct45 that is wider and heavier than there small bore pistols and with a stock 4lb 12oz trigger enjoyable to shoot and carry too .

So is there a best carry pistol , NO . Many makes and models do the job very well for many people . But if kahr made a double stack ??

Joe44va To bad you don't have a kahr in 40sw , your opinion would be different but the cw9 is comparable to a 357 2" still . Just have to pick a better class of 9mm ammo .

Is your model 60 a 3" 357 version ? The 2" version gives up to much accuracy and velocity to be comparable to anything but a 9mm . My old cw9 will exceed 1120fps with underwood 124gr+P ammo . Being an old revolver guy first and buying my first 357mag in 1976 I will debate whether a kahr pistol can compare . Lets compare to the kahr 40sw . A buddy has a cw40 and I have a tp40 . With underwood 155gr gold dots it will average 1281fps in a cw40 that is the size of a snubby and just about as fun to shoot as a 357steel snubby .

Now bump up to my tp40 4" kahr that still smaller than a 3" model 60 will average 1321 fps with that same 155gr underwood load , ad 95fps for a 135gr load . It takes a 4" barreled 357 rem mag to do that reliably , a 3" might with a few loads not likely and the 3" model 60 is all ready a longer heavier handgun than a tp40 . Accuracy - You are comparing both when shot as double actions right ? A 4" tp40 kahr is a sub 3" 25 yards pistol and granted the 3" model 60 might beat that but is it really better . 3" groups are about what most full pistols will do so its far from bad for a defensive handgun , cw series , add another 1" . And a cw40 or tp40 is not a 5 shooter !

 

[pyro]

I love my Shield .40 and I love my Kahr cm9. I can't find anything wrong with my Shield, but there are a couples of things that are less than ideal with the Kahr. So why do I like it?, because it is SMALL! This isn't comparing apples to apples. In fact if I throw my Glock 27 into the rotation, it makes my Shield a tweener.

 

[Cornhusker]

I sold my CW9 to buy my first Shield.
While I liked the CW9, I have no regrets

 

[daka]

Late to the party....just picked up my first KAHR (CW9)
Also have a few other 9 compacts...each is slightly different, but aren't we all looking for the "perfect" compact 9?
I'll be shooting it next week alongside the Shield PC, and probably my HK.
Time will tell if it's "The one"

 

[FloridaS&W]

Another zombie thread, risen from the grave.

 

[daka]

Hey....as I said.....New to the party....gimme' a break...(and you another Floridian.....) VBG

 

[SATX]

I prefer the Nacho Cheese Doritos over the Cool Ranch flavor, but in the end they’re both empty calories.

 

[baccusboy]

I like the looks of the Kahr guns, but I keep hearing about reliability issues. Just cannot handle that, and don't want to introduce that into my system. No need to.

 

[John Robert]

To each his own...................it's all subjective.

 

[daka]

Gotta' try it....who knows, this could be my "huckleberry"
At least I can rack the slide ....some of my compact 9's are getting difficult...old age catches up with all of us/you...
What's the "worst" thing that can happen ??

 

[Wishoot]

Well... the OP hasn't visited our beloved forum in 3 years, but I still don't understand his comment about needing to throw a lot of money into an upgraded trigger for the Shield.

Mine is stock and it's just fine.

 

[daka]

My Shield is a Performance Center model, I gave my "old" one to my son, there is a difference in the PC, the trigger is really smooth...and much better sights....(I could do with out the porting....I think that just "fluff") but it was bought on a rebate...so that part was "free")
And as far as "visiting" I just happen to be mostly on Glock Talk, but do visit just about all the "gun" M/B's), and have been shooting for over 70
seventyyears !!!

 

[daka]

My Shield is a Performance Center model, I gave my "old" one to my son, there is a difference in the PC, the trigger is really smooth...and much better sights....(I could do with out the porting....I think that just "fluff") but it was bought on a rebate...so that part was "free")
And as far as "visiting" I just happen to be mostly on Glock Talk, but do visit just about all the "gun" M/B's), and have been shooting for over 70
seventy years !!!

 

[mrchuck]

My Kahr is a CW-45. Recoil is not bad.
Quality is 100%.

 

[ScaryWoody]

Back in the day when this thread was started I bought a CW9. I was a Glock guy but wanted that smaller/lighter package. The Kahr is a nice pistol but with the trigger pull so long I never shot it well. Fast forward a few years later when S&W came out with the Shield 45. It was love at first bullseye.

 

[dkelly27]

I have a CW9 that I bought in 2013. I like it very much. I also have a Shield .45 Auto that I bought in late 2016. I like that very much to. I carry the Kahr because of Arthritis and Carpel Tunnel. They are both very accurate hand guns.

 

[DBasye1]

You also run the risk of getting picked apart by a legal defense attorney regarding your "intent" to shoot someone if you upgrade your trigger, add a crimson trace laser, etc. Not saying it sticks, but more and more, I read or hear anecdotes regarding this topic.

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just curious.... can you name a single time that this happened?

not opinion, but an actual case?

 

[SATX]

Prosecutor: So your intent was to shoot the BG who threatened your well being using that upgraded trigger and laser?

Me: Yes, shooting him was my intent.